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funola · #17 11-20-2017, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tyl604

Funola - new printers are infamous for coming with introductory ink cartridges; that means that they have quite a bit less ink than a normal replacement cartridge. Not illegal and quite well known. Also you should disregard the notice from the printer that your ink has run out; generally you have at least 20-30% left in the cartridges when the message shows. Just run them until they stop printing; does not hurt a thing - in fact instructions tell you to hold one of the buttons down for maybe five seconds to be able to continue printing temporarily. I do it all the time.

I would do that if that option is available. It STOPS PRINTING totally when the out of ink icon is on! It does pop up a bar code on the screen and ask you to scan it with your phone which leads you to Canon's site to buy ink. How thoughtful of those A**holes.

chrisgt · #18 11-20-2017, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by funola

That's very interesting but isn't that illegal? The first printer was bought from Bestbuy, the replacement came from Canon USA. Both ran out of ink with less than 100 pages printed.

The vendor is irrelevant, cannon ships it like that from the factory to you or to best buy. I don't see why it's illegal... It would be like car dealers selling cars with the gas gauge on E. It's an dick move, but it isn't illegal.

jay_bob · #19 11-20-2017, 05:51 PM

Note that there are two classes of ink jet printers. The kind where the print head is replaced every time you get an ink cartridge, and the kind where the print head is permanent, and the ink cartridge is just a tank to replenish the system.

If you try to run one of the permanent printhead printers dry, you will kill it because you can’t prime the system. That is why they stop short of completely running out and you can’t override it.

funola · #20 11-20-2017, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisgt

The vendor is irrelevant, cannon ships it like that from the factory to you or to best buy. I don't see why it's illegal... It would be like car dealers selling cars with the gas gauge on E. It's an dick move, but it isn't illegal.

If that is true, I should be able find in the user's manual which states that the ink cartridges are partially filled and will not meet the claimed specs for pages printed per cartridge until new cartridges are purchased. The partially filled cartridge should also be marked as such.

Diseasel300 · #21 11-20-2017, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by funola

What did you replace your inkjet with? I do not do a lot of printing.Maybe 400 pages a year in black and white for text and music scores? I don't need to print photos. It also must have ink when I receive the occasional faxes. What kind of printer do you recommend for that kind of use?

I have 2 laser printers, one is monochrome, the other is color. I never print anything in color, so the color one is packed away in a closet. The monochrome is a HP P1606dn, which was under $100. Has an automatic duplexer and a LAN port with optional WiFi. I have it next to the router, so I don't have to waste my time with flaky WiFi. I've had the printer for 4 years and still have never replaced the toner cartridge. Never dries out, never clogs, and if kept out of the sun or high heat, will last for years of intermittent use.

tyl604 · #22 11-20-2017, 07:54 PM

Yours is a Canon; mine is a Canon. The next time that out of ink message comes on just hold down the OK button on the printer for about five to ten seconds. That should allow you to continue to print. See pic.

About the initial cartridges. It is a well publicized fact that the cartridges furnished with the new printers have a very low capacity; that's just the way it is. You can find comments about it on line. No, there is nothing that I have ever found in a user's manual which talks about it.

Jay Bob - I always run my Canon until it will no longer print, either black or color (never has happened both at the same time); I pop in a refill cartridge and it swishes around for a minute or so probably loading more ink and it prints. Have been doing this on the MX432 for maybe eight years. But I am not sure whether this is or is not a permanent head printer.

ESchwab · #23 11-20-2017, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by funola

What did you replace your inkjet with? I do not do a lot of printing.Maybe 400 pages a year in black and white for text and music scores? I don't need to print photos. It also must have ink when I receive the occasional faxes. What kind of printer do you recommend for that kind of use?

I have been using HP laser printers exclusively for the last 20 years. If you are satisfied with black and white they are the way to go. My current printer is an M425dn, bought 2 years ago. I print a lot more than you -- about 8,000 pages a year. I get more than 3,000 pages from HP toner but switched from those two months ago due to expense ($80 to $100 per cartridge). I am now using v4ink cartridges bought from Amazon; they come in packages of 2 and cost about $20 a cartridge. I am still on the first one and have printed 1,450 pages and still have 60% of the supply left according to the printer status page. The print quality is as good as HP. That is essentially free printing.

Black Friday is now upon us. Now is the time to switch if you want laser. The selections at the office supply stores (Office Depot, Office Max or Staples) are better than Best Buy.

Junkman · #24 11-20-2017, 10:12 PM

My cousin has been a computer geek since HS when they had punch cards. He was working for HP when they made the decision to sell the printer cheap and create an annuity by selling expensive ink.

You can go with a laser printer if willing to pay more for the printer and less per page for the ink. It's the old break even dilemma. Most printers should work reasonably well when running Win 10. Some of the newer machines will need drivers written if you're running a flavor of Linux. Of course, you'd be posting on a computer forum were you off Microsoft.

vstech · #25 11-20-2017, 10:34 PM

Ok... printers ...

Ugh, what a scam ink jets are!

If you want a GREAT value printer with very long print use, with unlimited off time... no storage issues... get a laser.

Best wireless value out there is the Samsung line. Small 60 to 90 ish... bucks. The light use initial cartridge that comes with it should be good for over 1000 pages... and laser printed pages don’t smear, and they don’t look jaggy...

vstech · #26 11-20-2017, 10:35 PM

Oh yeah... for printing diesel related materials...

dude99 · #27 11-20-2017, 11:03 PM

Buy a good used colour laser printer and move on with life. People, especially offices upgrade frequently and sell their old stuff for peanuts on craigslist. Inkjets are cheaply made disposable junk, stop wasting your money.

dieselmania · #28 11-21-2017, 08:51 AM

This may not be for everyone but I bought a HP all in one Office Jet Pro and I signed up for the HP instant ink program. I pay about $2 per month for 50 pages and if I go over that there is a small per page charge. They automatically send ink to my door when the machine reports low or even if the ink is getting close to expiration. Of course the machine is online so they know the status of your ink.
I love it, I used to get so tired of having to stop what I was doing and go buy ink, this is way better for me. (If you are one of those who is afraid of "big brother watching" this may not be for you)

Regarding the laser printer suggestion, I was going to do just that till the guy at Office Depot explained how inkjet printers have gotten so good and so cheap it doesn't make sense to buy a laser anymore when you can get a great inkjet for around $100 and even if it lasts 5 years you're still money ahead over the purchase price of a laser. Not to mention the cost of laser cartridges.

oh, and I always print out Mercedes related diesel repair diagrams.

leathermang · #29 11-21-2017, 08:56 AM

I bought a Lexmark which was highly rated by all the big reviewers a few years ago.. the first time I replaced the toner cartridge I could not get the new chip to work

I agree with Pimpernel about BROTHER.... sometimes I have gone 6 months between printing my Insurance cards to carry in my wallet for my DIESEL 240 D Mercedes.

and it has never failed me. It is a HL 2270dw ...laser.... probably lower than most of you need...it may be wifi able.. but my stone age usb connection never fails me.

And I did replace the toner cartridge... which was painless....and they pay for the empty cartridge to be shipped back for recycling.

Diseasel300 · #30 11-21-2017, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dieselmania

Regarding the laser printer suggestion, I was going to do just that till the guy at Office Depot explained how inkjet printers have gotten so good and so cheap it doesn't make sense to buy a laser anymore when you can get a great inkjet for around $100 and even if it lasts 5 years you're still money ahead over the purchase price of a laser. Not to mention the cost of laser cartridges..

You fell for the sales-pitch hook, line, and sinker. Most of the "home" style laser printers you get nowadays are $100-150 when not on sale. When on sale (or Black Friday sale) you can get them under $100 easily.

Now let's talk about Toner/Ink. The average inkjet cartridge will do 200-250 pages before it runs out or dries up. Far less if the printer is used infrequently. The average laser cartridge will do 1500-2500 pages, never dries out, and doesn't age. The "starter" cartridge most lasers come with is good for 750-1000 pages, the inkjet around 100 pages.

Consider the average inkjet cartridge is $20-30 and the average laser cartridge is $75-100 (we're talking genuine OEM supplies here). Assuming you get rated pages out of your inkjet cartridges, you'll be at or beyond the cost of the bottom-end laser cartridge in cash outlay. Generics are even worse! The average generic laser cartridge is roughly twice the cost of a generic Inkjet cartridge, but does ~10 times the number of pages!

Then of course you come down to life expectancy of the printer itself. If you get 5 years out of an inkjet you did really well. The heads clog, the cleaning stations dry out or jam, the paper feeds wear out, and then they have a bad habit of just going "flaky" for no apparent reason. In a home setting, you should be able to get 10-20 years easily out of a laser printer. If you get one that recognizes PCL or PS as the printer language, you will never be obsolete either, PCL and PS printers can print from ANY computer with ANY operating system that speaks a dialect they understand. Standards are a wonderful thing.

When you factor in the waste, initial cost, and streaking/drying out issues that inkjets have, they're pointless in this day and age. People look ONLY at the cartridge cost or listen to the idiot at OfficeMax who doesn't even own a printer, but gets paid commission on whatever he sells.