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Ban diesel motors, up here in agriculture country, and there will be many "environmentalists" starving in their big city's
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My question is WHY?
Lets break this down with FACTS .Only 28% of the total output of emissions is caused by transportation. Only 3% of passenger vehicles sold are diesels. Add to that, nitrous oxide only makes 5% of ALL the TOTAL SUM of all emissions. Of that TOTAL SUM of all nitrous oxide, the vast majority of it is SOIL MANAGEMENT, transportation only accounts for a mere 5% of it. Stationary engines another 5%. Click on nitrous oxide to see the facts. https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases The EPA themselves even stated that Nitrous oxide make up a relatively small percentage of transportation emissions. https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/us-greenhouse-gas-inventory-report-1990-2014 If my math is right, transportation only accounts for .05% ( to 1% if you want to include stationary engines) of the TOTAL Nitrous Oxide output. Why ban something that's BARELY contributing to the total sum of emissions? What impact will that make? Let me help you out, next to none. Diesels are merely a scapegoat for a political agenda. Liberals/leftist want to ban something with no good reason why, even when logic/facts topples said reason/issue. Laughable, Diesels are destroying the United States, but cold hard facts refute such BASELESS claims
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Or, instead of banning diesels we could use clean-burning, renewable biodiesel.
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I see your comprehension is lacking so I fixed the post.
Besides that my post is irrefutable none the less. Care to dispute THE EPA's claims? Waiting for someone to give good reason to ban Diesel engines in regards to emissions, oh wait, there are none...
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Ocean transport (shipping, cruise ships, etc) are to blame for a massive amount of the global "fuel oil/diesel" emissions. These monstrous size ships and their engines emit more unchecked pollution than MILLIONS of cars. They often burn heavy dirty fuel full of sulfur and have no pollution controls on them whatsoever. Meanwhile a car with a 2 liter diesel that consumes less fuel in a year than one of those ships does in 15 minutes has to lug around tons of emissions equipment....
And thats not even taking into account the gross junk/pollution those ships pump into the ocean along the way either....or invasive species that attach to them and get moved around the world....
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Photochemical smog is a local problem. Unburned hydrocarbons and NOx react in sunlight to produce ozone, which is (at a minimum) a lung irritant. Looking at national percentages (which may or may not be accurate) misses the point that on a city-level scale, NOx is an important contributor to urban smog. The reduction of unburned fuel emissions and emissions of NOx through controls on both stationary and mobile sources has dramatically improved air quality in Los Angeles (my home town) and probably many cities across the U.S. I support further efforts to reduce emissions to help improve people's quality of life.
Now, just to be clear, I do not support banning any specific fuels. I support emission standards, and manufacturers are welcome to meet them however they like. If you can meet the required standards to maintain and improve people's health, it doesn't matter to me what fuel is being consumed. On a different note, black carbon particle emissions are another major pollutant from diesels. So focusing on NOx is missing a large part of the problem associated with compression ignition combustion.
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If one wants to place blame for emissions, look to air transport. I once saw a paper on the tonnage of emissions that a four-engine airliner spits out on a single cross-continent flight. The number was somewhere between 50 and 65 TONS and that did not count the particulates. |
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Yep, air transport is a big one too. A single long duration flight in a larger aircraft can easily burn over 30,000 gallons of fuel...again with no emissions controls other than how clean the engine is capable of running. Thats enough fuel to drive my GLK nearly a million miles.....and thats just ONE flight.
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I don't see diesels being banned here in the USA.
There will come a time when none are built, as other technologies catch market share and the driving public moves on. There will come a time when no combustion powered cars at all are built - it'll be EVs only, and eventually autonomous vehicles only. When's the last time a steam powered car was built? What percentage of the population commutes to work by horse and buggy? The country has moved on. I wonder what the next step after EV's will be.
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