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W123 Painted Cluster needles and Retrofitted LED's
Needles used Testors Tangerine Orange and Testors Paint thinner 3:1 ratio. The paint thinner helps avoid brush marks caused by the thick paint.
![]() ![]() From left to right: 1)Blue- High Beam 2)Red - Battery 3)Amber - Brake pad wear sensors 4)Red - Parking Brake Not shown: 5) Amber - Seat belt 6) Amber - Glow Plugs The prism / fiber optics are both Amber. Also replaced the turn signals, Octopus, and Hazard light switch with Leds. The cluster small bulb 74's are a ***** because the original bulbs are soldered onto the plastic twist off cap. Had to solder my own wire to the new LED's and solder them to the metal connections that hold the plastic cap to the cluster board. ![]() ![]() If anyone has a spare cluster plastic lens/cover, and or the indicator icons...shoot me a PM. Last edited by Wusha; 07-13-2019 at 09:22 PM. |
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Looks great.
One thing though. You will have to keep the 3 W incandescent bulb in the battery light. It needs this for the alternator to charge properly. The electrical characteristics of LEDs are incompatible with the voltage regulator.
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Could you elaborate for sake of my own ignorance? How does a 3w bulb allow the alternator to charge? (My car is a 1983 300D turbo , if that changes anything) I will look into this. Thank you for the warning |
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Jaybob, could not a regulator of sorts fix this?
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I meant, couldn't we add a resistor post LED to create the same effect? Edit: love the safety hat orange too OP!
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FOund this on a different car forum, Not a merc, but looks like it might be a solution... The wiring colors are incorrect so dont go by them. " Start with the "normal" warning lamp configuration where a white wire goes from the ignition switch, to the lamp, out the lamp via a brown/yellow wire and finally off to the alternator. Replace the warning lamp with a 40 Ohm power resistor (something rated for at least 1 Watt). NOW get your LED lamp assembly. A plain LED will need a "dropping resistor", typically 1000 Ohms. A pre-configured LED warning lamp will already have this resistor inside. Take your LED lamp (or LED with dropping resistor) and wire it in PARALLEL with the 40 Ohm power resistor. Pay attention to the polarity or the LED will not light. With the LED wired in parallel to the 40 Watt resistor... the LED will turn on and off just like a normal incandescent light. However, the current required to power the alternator field coils on startup will pass through the 40 Watt resistor." Anyways, I'm attempting this myself, I'll report if I have any luck. |
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I am not sure if LED bulbs give off more or less heat. If more heat, there may be a concern with distorting the indicator icon films.
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Has anyone been able to find out which is the best product among those listed here?
https://11must.com/best-clamp-meters/ |
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The 3w bulb provides resistance which is needed to allow the alternator to charge. Mercedes automobiles are very sensitive concerning the wattage of bulbs used in the tail and stop lights also. Not using the correct wattage bulb will disable the cruise control.
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Your gauge needles look great ! .
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Thank you and for the tip
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I can see the stop/brake light bulb having an effect but the marker/tail? I don't think the lighting circuit is involved with the cruise since it can be engaged without the lights but I've been wrong many times before.
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To the OP - I would take a night drive to see how bright the new LED bright light indicator is. I had to put the original incandescent bulb back in because it lit up half my car. |
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@JayBob
Is the recharging ability of the alternator affected because of LED polarity or something else? The LED on my Battery light is non-polar, just like the 74 bulbs. Quote:
EDIT: The correct username is JamesDean , no space.
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