Hi folks,

I'm pretty sure I have read every thread on the internet on this topic. My '98 has a clunking noise in the front end, most notable at low speeds. Its very uncivilized, very un-Benz

114k miles on the chassis. Back in April, I replaced lower control arms, shocks, lower ball joints, sway bar end links, sway bar bushings. Parts were QE quality, mostly Lemforder branded. Shocks were OE quality Bilstein Touring. It was gloriously smooth and quiet immediately after...now several months later, crashing over bumps again. Have put the car up on the lift 2x now and checked everything I touched. Nothing is noticeably loose, everything appears tight and proper. I did note a bit of front wheel bearing play and snugged them up thinking that could be the problem...no change.

The only things I didn't change are tie rod ends and upper control arms. I've jostled these bits around and put the pry bar on them to see if there is play and have detected nothing.

What am I missing? Any ideas?

Check the sway bar bushing brackets for loose bolts. Put a tool on them and feel for proper torque. After rebuilding my car's suspension those bolts would come loose which produced some clunking until I used thread locker on them. No trouble since.

Make sure the top fastener on the strut is not loose. I had one that I was scratching my head on and found the top fastener on the strut loose.

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Jim

thanks folks...couple of good ideas thus far.

pretty sure I checked the sway bar bushing bracket bolts...put a wrench on them, at least some of them. Possible some of those bolts are blocked by the transmission undertray which I definitely didn't remove when I checked things out. Will look again.

I have not checked the shock top nuts. I recall torquing those suckers good when I did the install, but its worth a look.

bumping this thread to the top. My noise is getting worse. Now 120k miles. So bad at this point that I have parked the car. Since last posting, replaced motor mounts, trans mount, and tie rod ends. Have double and triple checked all the relevant fasteners in the front end. The bang/rattle is so prominent that it should be something obviously loose, only its not obvious at all. I have a lift in my garage and have inspected the car now at least a dozen times.

I have a friend who runs a shop and he's going to bring his chassis ear tool home so we can find the culprit.

meanwhile if any other ideas are out there, please post 'em up.

This might be out in left field, but have you checked the front spring perches?? They are buried under the factory rubberized coating, and even if the coating is intact and looks good, they can be rusting underneath. My 96 E300D made a sound like I was running over a tree branch, and when I parked the car overnight, I woke up the next morning, and the front passenger side front fender was resting on top of the tire. The entire passenger side of the engine compartment along with the spring perch was rusted, and failed. Two weeks prior to this incident, I had the car up on a lift to have the tires rotated, and I made a special inspection of both spring perches, and they both appeared to be fine with the factory coating still in place. Apparently it rusted from within the metal panels and could not be seen during a normal inspection. Good luck!!!!

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96 E300d

Ive encountered noise caused by the upper arm on a W210 and W140.

Wasnt obvious at the time but both times those turned out to be the problem.

Upper control arms?

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2013 E350 Bluetec

guarantee it’s upper control arms. You won’t feel the play in the ball joints by shaking it down, but by watching the control arm itself move up and down.

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I need to go thru this on my 98 E300 and my 01 E320. Both have clunking with the 01 being worse. I have not done anything yet.

When mine made such a noise, even going SLOWLY over a speed bump, it turned out to be BOTH coil springs were broken

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1999 E300 Turbodiesel 169,000 miles
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When mine did a thumping which would go away as I slowed down, it was a shock.

Well...I thought the upper control arm had fixed it after a test loop across some local potholes, but its still crash/banging like something is going to fall off.

I haven’t the foggiest f-in clue what it could be. At this point I am suspecting it could be some of the new parts I installed over the last year have failed already.

I’m thinking of swapping front shocks from left to right, to see if the ugly noise switches sides, which would indicate the shock is bad.

Had the car up again for front rotors and pads and took a close look at the springs, which don’t appear to be broken.

now 124k miles, and still making ugly noises. Additional steps taken to quiet the demon = replace hub, replace inner tie rod. At this point, EVERYTHING has been replaced within the last 15k miles.

I still need to swap the front shocks side to side to see if I got a bad Bilstein. Possibly one of the new ball joints I installed took an early dump?

Only other idea raised by a friend is the lower control arm bolts themselves...if there were too much play between the bolt and the bushing perhaps it could create the noise?

Yes, do that. I just replaced all my shocks (97 E300D) with Sachs brand and the right front sounds like a coffee can of bolts over each bump. I'm going to back off and re-torque the top nuts tonight. If that doesn't work, I'll have to check the bottom.

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