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Old 03-03-2020, 01:12 AM
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Fortunately they’re sending a replacement.

Re: paint color I prefer a darker shade of grey. I painted the inserts of my euro lights the same color to match.

Has anyone ever trimmed these inserts? I’m assuming a hacksaw from the back, but is there a better way?
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Old 03-03-2020, 02:29 AM
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My two OEM inserts came to the partshaus to - day, I asked them to open and inspect them before I go pick them up .
Yes, let us know how they look. I'm also curious to know if you have better luck with yours, obviously.

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Fortunately they’re sending a replacement.

Re: paint color I prefer a darker shade of grey. I painted the inserts of my euro lights the same color to match.

Has anyone ever trimmed these inserts? I’m assuming a hacksaw from the back, but is there a better way?
That's good, hopefully the replacement is better. Also, I think I might go with a slightly darker grey on mine now that I've givin it some thought. Black is just too dark for me.
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Old 03-03-2020, 09:37 AM
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I suppose it depends on the paint color of the car .

Me, I like the light & airy look the light gray gives and would keep it were I to re paint a grille insert .

So far I've never had any issues with the aluminum trims, they're not as good as the originals but even the originals get tarnished after three decades .

I'd love to find a source for stainless steel insert strips .
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Old 03-08-2020, 09:10 PM
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When I spoke to mbparts, they told me the insert they’d sent came directly from a US dealer and not from germany. Apparently, this only happens when a dealer is willing to let go of a part they couldn’t move. Considering the state of what they sent me, I get it.
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So, I need a new insert, new chrome strips and all the clips but not the actual chrome grille. I was pricing everything out and those chrome strips and little clips really start to add up. I'm thinking I might just buy the whole Uro grill assembly and just use the strips, clips and insert and get rid of the big chrome Uro grille. I figure if my genuine Mercedes grille is still nice it has to be better than the Uro grill, right? Anyone else go this route?
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Old 09-02-2020, 09:18 PM
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So, I need a new insert, new chrome strips and all the clips but not the actual chrome grille. I was pricing everything out and those chrome strips and little clips really start to add up. I'm thinking I might just buy the whole Uro grill assembly and just use the strips, clips and insert and get rid of the big chrome Uro grille. I figure if my genuine Mercedes grille is still nice it has to be better than the Uro grill, right? Anyone else go this route?
My friend just ordered a Uro assembly, excluding the Mercedes emblem. Honestly I was surprised at the quality, its not bad. No teling how well it will hold up to the elements but the actual insert is far better than the genuine insert. I even thought the surround was decent quality. I only held it for a minute or so but I like to think I can spot bad quality pretty easily.

I'd go this route to be quite honest. Also the strips werent 100% lined up but it was close.
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My friend just ordered a Uro assembly, excluding the Mercedes emblem. Honestly I was surprised at the quality, its not bad. No teling how well it will hold up to the elements but the actual insert is far better than the genuine insert. I even thought the surround was decent quality. I only held it for a minute or so but I like to think I can spot bad quality pretty easily.

I'd go this route to be quite honest. Also the strips werent 100% lined up but it was close.
This is reassuring. I think I'm going to go for it. Thanks!

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Do it. If I had to do it again, I absolutely would.
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No way is the Uro chrome surround any good ~ it's paper thin and *very* poorly stamped and folded etc. plus the hardware & clips are worthless, like the very worse Chinese toys tht are broken / don't work right out of the box .

I find it cheapest to buy a new Uro grille complete and use only the plastic insert and strips, I polish the old German surround when it's apart and re use all the original hardware and sliders etc. .

I find the gray plastic insert only last abut 5 years before beginning to fade and crumble .

I have searched in vain world wide for N.O.S. plastic grill inserts .
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Old 09-02-2020, 10:16 PM
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So, I need a new insert, new chrome strips and all the clips but not the actual chrome grille. I was pricing everything out and those chrome strips and little clips really start to add up. I'm thinking I might just buy the whole Uro grill assembly and just use the strips, clips and insert and get rid of the big chrome Uro grille. I figure if my genuine Mercedes grille is still nice it has to be better than the Uro grill, right? Anyone else go this route?
Do it. If I had to do it again, I absolutely would.
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Old 09-03-2020, 05:54 AM
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I've had to replace close to (I'm hoping less than) 10 on my various W123's, mostly because of poor condition when purchased then because of druggies and other worthless neighbors backing into my cars .

No way is the Uro chrome surround any good ~ it's paper thin and *very* poorly stamped and folded etc. plus the hardware & clips are worthless, like the very worse Chinese toys tht are broken / don't work right out of the box .

I find it cheapest to buy a new Uro grille complete and use only the plastic insert and strips, I polish the old German surround when it's apart and re use all the original hardware and sliders etc. .

I find the gray plastic insert only last abut 5 years before beginning to fade and crumble .

I have searched in vain world wide for N.O.S. plastic grill inserts .
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Old 09-03-2020, 01:18 PM
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Nate - you can still buy N.O.S. plastic inserts. I ended up with two of them and let me tell you, they were junk. Maybe not in longevity or quality of plastic, but they were rough... I had to sand and paint. It's possible that whatever is still kicking around out there has been rejected and returned a number of times.
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Another question for those that painted the plastic insert...

Does anyone know, off hand, which color gray spray paint to get? I actually want to keep the color close to the original gray. I might go a little darker but not much. I'm also thinking of using this same gray to paint the plastic surrounds of my headlights too which are looking a little dingy.

Also, should I get flat, semi-gloss or gloss spray paint?
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:01 PM
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I'd use a plastic specific paint and make sure it's glossy .

Remember to seriously clean the new insert before painting .

I'm not really good at painting else I'da done this .

M-B says no plastic inserts available .
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I'd use a plastic specific paint and make sure it's glossy .

Remember to seriously clean the new insert before painting .

I'm not really good at painting else I'da done this .

M-B says no plastic inserts available .
Right here Nate:

https://www.mbpartscenter.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-panel-1238880923
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If anyone wants to see visual differences between installed W123 aftermarket and OE grilles side by side, here you go: https://www.facebook.com/groups/W123NA/permalink/3210183625715021/

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M-B says no plastic inserts available .
The new plastic inserts from MB have a defect in them all in the same place. I can even see it on earlier pictures in this thread. My suspicion is that they're stopping distribution based on customer complaints. I know some guys who've returned theirs for refunds based on the defects. Here's more pics. Not mine.




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Parts can show up as available on dealer sites that use Revolution Parts and not be available. I've gotten a few refunds because of that.
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:07 PM
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I never really liked the original grey, so I went charcoal. Matte if you can find it, but I guess that's a matter of taste.
Also a good idea hitting the inner plastic of the euro lights.

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