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Old 11-27-2020, 11:35 PM
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Thanks all - fun and easy job.
The most difficult part was winding those GD spiral rings around the boots.
Thumbs are killing me.

In general this seems a solid pre-emptive strategy for preserving suspension ball joints.
Thinking I'll go ahead and reboot the remaining rubber while I'm at it.

FYI, the boot kit 0003300485 is the same for both tie rod ends and the center drag link.
If you plan on tackling this job, you'll need six in total.

Approx $38 to preserve the OEM gear and avoid an alignment?

Not bad.

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You usually do not need a puller to remove tie rods. Loosen the nut, use a bar to apply pressure (frequently not needed) then smack the knuckle.

You can skip to ~ 1.55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NCklnSaYec
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Old 11-28-2020, 12:27 PM
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You usually do not need a puller to remove tie rods. Loosen the nut, use a bar to apply pressure (frequently not needed) then smack the knuckle.

You can skip to ~ 1.55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NCklnSaYec
Might try this next time... the tie rod came easy, however the drag link required a fair bit of pressure from the puller.
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Old 11-28-2020, 03:26 PM
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You usually do not need a puller to remove tie rods. Loosen the nut, use a bar to apply pressure (frequently not needed) then smack the knuckle.

You can skip to ~ 1.55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NCklnSaYec
Peoples experiences at that seem to vary. If you can get the free tie rod press it nearly guarantees success and without damage.
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Old 11-28-2020, 05:05 PM
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You usually do not need a puller to remove tie rods. Loosen the nut, use a bar to apply pressure (frequently not needed) then smack the knuckle.

You can skip to ~ 1.55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NCklnSaYec
This method depends entirely on how long the joint has been installed and how tightly it was fastened. On really old joints or ones that have been grossly overtorqued, I've had a 0% success rate at separating ball joints or tie rod ends using the "Load and whack" method. Properly torqued, or joints that have been previously removed usually come right out.
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Old 11-28-2020, 03:38 PM
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This video shows a way of dealing with the spiral spring however the joint is not installed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7rdCB7ofm4&app=desktop
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Old 11-28-2020, 04:16 PM
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This video shows a way of dealing with the spiral spring however the joint is not installed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7rdCB7ofm4&app=desktop
Yep, I found that in my research. Still found it very tricky...
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Old 12-26-2020, 12:00 AM
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Had another boot tear so figured I’d finish the job and reboot everything.
Ball joints seem to be okay, some a little tighter than others, but fortunately no play.

Now, I cannot for the life of me get the other side of the drag link popped. I’m talking the side connected to the pitman arm. I’ve got a puller (same I posted on page 1), and actually had the thing so tight I could to longer tighten it with a plain old box wrench. No movement save for the gradual distortion of threads.

Is there a better method here? No clearance to swing a hammer.
Another style puller?
Magic?
The Force?

$!?@&$!!!!
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Old 12-26-2020, 02:52 PM
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Post Seperating Tapered Shafts

I hate those spiral retaining rigs too Sherm....

Some times you have to hit the eye portion of the link to shock the pivot loose, try this with the too lightly snugged up and as mentioned always have the nut loosely installed so you don't damage the threads .

Castle nuts are indefinitely re usable, I'd buy some new cotter pins, if you hunt around there are American made assortments, often cheapest from military surplus places .

FWIW, I prefer the typ of tool you got but there are many different ones out there, my favorite was a BMW specd one until I was careless and bent the threaded bolt, I'm still looking for this exact tool as it fit better than any other I've ever found .
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Old 12-26-2020, 02:39 PM
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You can try soaking in penetrating oil and let it sit over night. Some might use heat from a torch but I'd hold off on that as you don't want to cook the grease since you are reusing the hardware.

You could try leaving it preloaded with the tool then tap on it with a hammer, since it sounds like there isn't much clearance, you'll probably only get baby taps but the vibration will help break up any corrosion or galling. You can use a drift punch to reach the joint. A brass punch will cause less cosmetic damage but since you can whack the joint pretty hard with a hammer it isn't necessary.

If you have access to an air compressor, you can use an air hammer or air chisel with a rounded tool to knock it loose while it's preloaded. You can look up South Main Auto big nasty on YouTube to see how fast it works.

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You can try loading the separator up to the maximum pressure and let it sit, just walk away. Sometimes they slowly break loose, you will hear it break loose.

Could also try loading the pressure and striking exterior of the part that the tapered shaft goes through. Be careful doing this, the separation could be sudden with the puller flying at you.

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Old 12-26-2020, 04:20 PM
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Thanks all -Have loaded and hosed with PB blaster.

This one is in a very awkward position. I've barely enough clearance to get the 19mm around the adjuster nut (tapered shaft pointing upward).

Considering going back to the rental desk and trying a different tool.
When using a picklefork, is the only danger in damaging the boot?
Obviously not an issue here as I am rebooting, but any other issues? Wouldn't want to damage the ball joint...
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I've never observed a problem other than boot damage from pickle forks; but, I'm usually replacing the joint when using a pickle fork so I probably wouldn't have known if there was damage. About the awkward position, would turning the steering help? I realize you've thought of that but it's worth mentioning.

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Old 12-26-2020, 06:11 PM
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God I hate these spiral rings.
I put a pin hole in one of the new boots.

Is there anything to be done for this or do I need to buy yet another new boot?
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Old 12-26-2020, 06:39 PM
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Is there anything to be done for this or do I need to buy yet another new boot?
Make sure the surface is clean and grease free, then place a little dab of black urethane sealant over the hole. If it bonds properly leave it be.
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