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Old 05-16-2021, 12:09 PM
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I don’t think there’s any contact. If there is, I’m sure I’ll get a couple of years out of them and they’re only two bucks each to replace.

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Old 08-10-2021, 01:49 PM
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My OM617 has a few oil leaks and I'm thinking that it is exacerbated by blowby. I'm wondering what people think about creating a second vent in the valve cover and venting to a catch can then on to the intake. I would keep this in addition to the stock vent inside the air filter.
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Old 08-10-2021, 02:22 PM
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That’s an interesting thought. The valve cover has some internal baffling inside. I’m not sure what’s under the glued in plate running a long the top. I guess it’s supposed to stop splashing.

I think my car is getting a lot of oil from worn valve guides combined with old valve stem seals. I bet it works like a really good atomizer in there during the exhaust stroke when the exhaust valve is open and the turbo is putting a bit of back pressure on the exhaust. I have some seals on the shelf to do the job. Just waiting for the valve adjustment interval.

It can only help. I’d probably look at all possible remedies before cutting a hole in my valve cover.

My separator has been working well on both my cars. I collect a tablespoon full of oil every two months with light use (300 miles a month). I figure it’s better in the cup than on my rings.

On my 300SD there is a stock cyclonic separator that I use in series with the BMW N54 style separator. The drawback of this is more backpressure. Two crank case vents would definitely drop the pressure but I haven’t had any issues yet. My engine remains well sealed.

ETA - on both of my cars I had leaking seals. Yes, it has to do with crank case pressure but it also had much to do with 40 yo hardened gaskets. I had leaking turbo drain seals/gasket, oil Pan, oil drain plug, vacuum pump gasket, valve cover gasket, breather drain seal, U tube gasket, crank case vent elbows, injector pump gasket, oil filter block gasket, main seal, oil cap gasket and more weeping. Replacing these stopped the oil leaks. Theyve withstood the addition of the extra separator can so I must admit the leaks had as much to do with old rubber as they did blow by.
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Old 08-10-2021, 04:33 PM
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My OM617 has a few oil leaks and I'm thinking that it is exacerbated by blowby. I'm wondering what people think about creating a second vent in the valve cover and venting to a catch can then on to the intake. I would keep this in addition to the stock vent inside the air filter.
I mentioned this offhandedly on page 1 but didn't elaborate. I have seen good evidence that a second vent line will help with oil leaks since it's relieving even more pressure. I plan to do this at some point myself.
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I mentioned this offhandedly on page 1 but didn't elaborate. I have seen good evidence that a second vent line will help with oil leaks since it's relieving even more pressure. I plan to do this at some point myself.
I think I'm going to do it in the next few weeks. I'll let you know.
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Old 08-11-2021, 04:03 AM
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Fascinating idea... please share images as you go.

So I've run the catch can now for about 1500 miles and have caught about a cup of oil.
The intake manifold, as expected, is bone dry, exhaust smells better, never any black smoke at idle, and so on.

I can see why they added these things in 82.
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Old 08-11-2021, 10:42 AM
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I'm going to do it! I have purchased a new, pretty valve cover on ebay and have 3/4 FNPT aluminum bung welded into it so I can put a 3/4 hose barb on it and run it to a catch can. That, in addition to the stock catch can inside the air filter should eliminate any blow-by pressure. (The cap dances a bit) After doing that, I'll attack any leaks that are left. There's a small chance that this will reduce or eliminate leaks.

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Old 08-21-2021, 01:07 AM
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https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KK61723/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_3?smid=AKH7Q6S5LSBBS&psc=1

I've had this one in my Amazon cart for awhile. Next step in slowing down the rate at which the truck marks it's spot in the shop. I'll be watching this thread with interest.
Thanks for sharing 617 looks great gonna order one tomorrow
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Old 08-21-2021, 01:29 AM
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Dieselbenz have any pictures and description on your catch can.
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Old 08-21-2021, 01:31 AM
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That's good info. I wouldn't have guessed size would be a huge problem, but now that I know, I'll look at other options and prioritize something with decent flow.
Can't you just adapt bigger hoses to the amazon catch can
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Old 08-21-2021, 04:11 AM
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Forgot to ask: what are you doing about the intake side?

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