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Old 03-23-2024, 10:10 PM
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You shouldn't move the car an inch without having installed ALL the relevant brake caliper components.
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Old 03-27-2024, 09:57 PM
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You shouldn't move the car an inch without having installed ALL the relevant brake caliper components.
I haven't moved that car because I don't have the correct springs. Others have said that many calipers don't have springs and they do just fine. Are these springs just an optional add on? Or will they not function properly without them? I'm asking about actual function.
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Old 03-28-2024, 12:53 AM
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I haven't moved that car because I don't have the correct springs. Others have said that many calipers don't have springs and they do just fine. Are these springs just an optional add on? Or will they not function properly without them? I'm asking about actual function.
See the attached pictures. The last picture shows the springs orientations before the pins are inserted.


This has bendix calipers
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mercedes+W123+Brake+Pads+Rear+Replacement/21531
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Old 03-28-2024, 08:30 AM
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Those are good pics; I could not find any. If they actually shipped you Bendix calipers that flat retainer will not work (that new retainer that you - are ordering is for ATE and it looks substantially different from the old ones - but maybe will work)

If the supplier actually sent you a Bendix caliper, go back to the springs. If he sent an ATE, use the flat. The ATE calipers used to have ATE in the casting of the caliper but I do not know if the new ones have that.

Thinking you may have been shipped a Bendix as you requested, go back and try to install the springs as shown in the pics and let us know.

It is truly a five minute job.
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Old 03-28-2024, 12:03 PM
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See the attached pictures. The last picture shows the springs orientations before the pins are inserted.


This has bendix calipers
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mercedes+W123+Brake+Pads+Rear+Replacement/21531
Those springs won't fit as shown in the pictures.
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Old 03-28-2024, 02:58 PM
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Greg is correct. If you actually have Bendix, the flat cross will not work. Go back to the springs and install as shown in the pics.
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Old 03-30-2024, 02:11 PM
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Those springs won't fit as shown in the pictures.
Go back to your fist post. All that I posted is trying to answer that. I see from post #25 you gave the wrong information in your original post.

And for some reason I am not having any sympathy or empathy for you going without a car for weekend.
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Old 03-30-2024, 09:35 PM
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Go back to your fist post. All that I posted is trying to answer that. I see from post #25 you gave the wrong information in your original post.

And for some reason I am not having any sympathy or empathy for you going without a car for weekend.
A few people were helpful here. But, it was impossible for them or me to know that Autozone had mixed the wrong parts. Problem resolved now.
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Old 03-30-2024, 11:29 PM
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A few people were helpful here. But, it was impossible for them or me to know that Autozone had mixed the wrong parts. Problem resolved now.
I found out what I did because I took the time to look up and learn the information. I answered your trigonal question.

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