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09-04-2003, 08:28 PM
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616/617 Engines
What is the difference between the 616 and 617 Diesel engines?
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09-04-2003, 08:47 PM
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One. (cylinder that that is)
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09-05-2003, 12:08 PM
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But the OM616 is a non turbo, right, so its more than 1 cylinder different than a OM617.
OK, so what is the designation of a non turbo 5 cylinder engine such as used in a 300D? P E H
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09-05-2003, 12:47 PM
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09-05-2003, 01:04 PM
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The differences between the turbo and non-turbo 617 are found in the numbers that come after 617. eg, 617.xxx
Which numbers designate which engine model I don't know but there are more differences between 617's than just the turbo. For instance, the 617 they put in vans, has a different number than the 617 they put in cars, even though they were both non-turbo. For instance, the earlier 617 in the 115's had a different water pump than later 617's in the 123's.
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09-05-2003, 11:03 PM
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A non-turbo 300d in a 115 chassis would be a 617.910 and not a 617.912.
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#9
09-06-2003, 02:05 PM
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Kerry,
What would a 617.912 go into, a 123? I just bought a factory 615, 616, 617.91 engine manual off ebay. I hope it will correspond to my 1976 300D. Thanks
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09-06-2003, 02:11 PM
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09-06-2003, 02:24 PM
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Can anyone direct us to a website where all the differences between the various models of 616 and 617 engines are explained?
I know some of the differences between the turbo and non-turbo but how about a complete list of all differences and to which engines they apply?
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13
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09-06-2003, 05:55 PM
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Sixto 95 S420 91 300SE 87 300SDL 83 300SD
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