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Old 12-28-2007, 02:22 PM
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Added a Intercooler:
I want one on my 83 CD............

and those 15" wheels someday soon..........


Happy new year!
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Old 01-07-2008, 12:15 AM
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Added a Intercooler:
That is SOOO cool. I would want to do it just for the looks!

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Old 01-09-2008, 01:49 AM
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Here is my intercooler:
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:26 AM
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And mine.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:17 AM
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83 300sd upgrades

Oh, wow! I guess a ton of routine stuff:-

In the last 2 yrs that I have owned the car (a ton of this was done in the the first, expensive, 3 months of ownership)

new coolant, new thermostat and rad cap
several vac switches and temp sensor
swop over to synthetic engine oil
replace air filter and remove cobwebs and leaves from filter housing!!
replace fuel filters
change P/S fluid and filter
rebuild front end, new tie rod ends etc., new steering shock
weld crack on front suspension mount
replace cruise control amp
replace climate control unit
replace wiper blades with genuine Bosch parts
replace monovalve insert and diagnose and repair wiring problem to valve
new brake pads all round, replace front rotors
flush brake fluid
new Bilstein shocks all round
replace diff oil
replace transmission fluid and filter

to be done this year

engine mounts
injectors
new Nokian WR tires to replace Michelin Harmony rubbish
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:55 AM
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Hahahaha... it's pretty funny what some folks consider upgrades! A cupholder? New filters?
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:52 AM
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For you guys with intercoolers, any measureable power increases?
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1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:55 AM
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Yes, I can safely hold full power for much longer.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:05 AM
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mine is in but not hooked up yet, i have to check my timing and chain
i had to move the rad to the right and the oil cooler behind my licence plate
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:17 AM
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IC is not going to give you a power increase by itself, it will allow you to turn up the fuel and boost. It just helps keep the EGT's lower.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:27 PM
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I've done the 115 amp alternator upgrade for the purpose of replacing the stock fan with a Spaal electric and a Spaal pulse width modulator. My stock clutch had seized up and the fan and controller were comparable in price to a new clutch. This way I can have full fan speed while idling with the a/c on for better air flow over the condenser. That's very important during Oklahoma summers. Another reason for the alternator upgrade was to upgrade the wiring and add relays for the headlights to be able to use 100w high beams and to replace the fogs with additional 100w lamps. I drive lots of back roads at night coming from work and going to visit my parents so they're a necessity. I'll also be upgrading my condenser to a parallel flow unit in a couple of months, along with replacing my compressor that seized last September.
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:47 PM
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My 240D had a cassette tape holder with these junky spring-loaded chambers that I think may have come from the factory but who needs tapes, so I ripped out the tape holders and built a wooder pair of cup holders out of it... Perfect.

But to possibly make a considerable contribution to the group, how about a hydrogen supplement to the system? It works pretty great and I will take some pics of what I've done if anyone is interested.
It's basically a simple hydrogen electrolyzer in the trunk, made from a plastic paint can, that converts salt water to 3psi of hydrogen right off the battery power. It's a very un-intrusive mod that can only be noticed as an extra tube and power wire under the hood and the same in the trunk.
At the moment I have it relayed off the subwoofer signal from my stereo because I had already run a wire for a butt-kicker sub under my driver's seat before I began this project. (I guess that counts as a mod as well.) This keeps it from running the battery down when parked (and also makes me have to drive with my stereo on if I want to experience the benefits... which it is always on anyway.)
I have tried two destinations for the hydrogen gas feed; one directly to the air filter housing to dump the hydrogen in with the incoming air, and more recently I built a small brass fitting assembly that injects the hydrogen directly into the diesel fuel right after the secondary filter.
Total price for all the parts was around $35. Took me a couple hours to get it all hooked up, which would go a bit faster if I were to do it to my wife's 300D.

What I know is that I was getting 29-30 mpg before I started, on Michelin X all-season radials. Hooked up the air-filter feed version of the system the same week that I had to change over to snows for the winter, and noticed a significant difference in acceleration and highway cruising. Unfortunately, any mpg rating at the moment would be heavily distorted because of the snow tires... So I don't have empirical data yet on this.

Then I disconnected the feed for two weeks to get used to how it used to drive, to be sure I wasn't kidding myself.

So this afternoon I hooked up the direct-to-fuel version (would that be fuel injection-injection?) and also noted a change in acceleration and cruising immediately. I still have plenty of examination and tweaking to do on this method though, to try to get the best possible results. If I had to guess, I'd say the air filter version had a better immediate result than the fuel-injected version.

At first I was thinking that I'd like to get the hydrogen directly into the fuel because some of it would burn on contact with the air as it traveled into the manifold, making the amount that actually gets to the cylinder less than what I sent in.
I was especially convinced that the air filter method was suffering once I found out that there is not always vacuum in the air filter housing. In fact, more often than not, there's positive pressure. Not what I expected from my years of dealing with gasoline engines. So my guess is that hydrogen enters the filter housing (directly over the hole that drops into the manifold; it bypasses the filter) and then must swirl around a bit in the semi-vacuum that exists there. No good for a gas that begins to combust with its first contact with air.
So I am still learning what's the best method but I can tell you it's easy to build, easy to install, and definitely exhibits a difference in drivability.
I can describe the process I went through to come up with my solution if anyone expresses interest; again with photos that I have not yet taken.

And thanks to the group for helping me learn that I had to take two screws out of the side of the auto transmission my wife's 300D to get the vacuum modulator out. Can't see much up in there, even with the driveshaft disconnected and the rear of the tranny dropped a few inches! I hope to be able to make some sort of return contribution in the years ahead.

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Old 01-11-2008, 08:41 AM
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hydrogen injection

Yes by all means post pics and more details. Great idea.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:08 AM
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Most of the stuff I've done on my wagon has been to bring it back to acceptable daily driver condition.

"Upgrades" I've done are:

1. The leak-free Primer Pump
2. clear turn signal lenses
3. Blacked out grill
4. LED bulbs in gauge cluster
5. Keyless entry that utilizes the vacuum central lock system
6. New head unit, speakers and subwoofer (mounted in spare tire cover) with amp (mounted in first-aid kit location).
7. 16" Reproduction SLK wheels (some may not think of this as an upgrade)
8. Limo tint

I'd like to add a boost gauge as another upgrade.
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:25 AM
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My 240D had a cassette tape holder with these junky spring-loaded chambers that I think may have come from the factory but who needs tapes, so I ripped out the tape holders and built a wooder pair of cup holders out of it... Perfect.

But to possibly make a considerable contribution to the group, how about a hydrogen supplement to the system? It works pretty great and I will take some pics of what I've done if anyone is interested.
It's basically a simple hydrogen electrolyzer in the trunk, made from a plastic paint can, that converts salt water to 3psi of hydrogen right off the battery power. It's a very un-intrusive mod that can only be noticed as an extra tube and power wire under the hood and the same in the trunk.
At the moment I have it relayed off the subwoofer signal from my stereo because I had already run a wire for a butt-kicker sub under my driver's seat before I began this project. (I guess that counts as a mod as well.) This keeps it from running the battery down when parked (and also makes me have to drive with my stereo on if I want to experience the benefits... which it is always on anyway.)
I have tried two destinations for the hydrogen gas feed; one directly to the air filter housing to dump the hydrogen in with the incoming air, and more recently I built a small brass fitting assembly that injects the hydrogen directly into the diesel fuel right after the secondary filter.
Total price for all the parts was around $35. Took me a couple hours to get it all hooked up, which would go a bit faster if I were to do it to my wife's 300D.

What I know is that I was getting 29-30 mpg before I started, on Michelin X all-season radials. Hooked up the air-filter feed version of the system the same week that I had to change over to snows for the winter, and noticed a significant difference in acceleration and highway cruising. Unfortunately, any mpg rating at the moment would be heavily distorted because of the snow tires... So I don't have empirical data yet on this.

Then I disconnected the feed for two weeks to get used to how it used to drive, to be sure I wasn't kidding myself.

So this afternoon I hooked up the direct-to-fuel version (would that be fuel injection-injection?) and also noted a change in acceleration and cruising immediately. I still have plenty of examination and tweaking to do on this method though, to try to get the best possible results. If I had to guess, I'd say the air filter version had a better immediate result than the fuel-injected version.

At first I was thinking that I'd like to get the hydrogen directly into the fuel because some of it would burn on contact with the air as it traveled into the manifold, making the amount that actually gets to the cylinder less than what I sent in.
I was especially convinced that the air filter method was suffering once I found out that there is not always vacuum in the air filter housing. In fact, more often than not, there's positive pressure. Not what I expected from my years of dealing with gasoline engines. So my guess is that hydrogen enters the filter housing (directly over the hole that drops into the manifold; it bypasses the filter) and then must swirl around a bit in the semi-vacuum that exists there. No good for a gas that begins to combust with its first contact with air.
So I am still learning what's the best method but I can tell you it's easy to build, easy to install, and definitely exhibits a difference in drivability.
I can describe the process I went through to come up with my solution if anyone expresses interest; again with photos that I have not yet taken.

And thanks to the group for helping me learn that I had to take two screws out of the side of the auto transmission my wife's 300D to get the vacuum modulator out. Can't see much up in there, even with the driveshaft disconnected and the rear of the tranny dropped a few inches! I hope to be able to make some sort of return contribution in the years ahead.

Best regards
Yes, please send pics. My son in law is experimenting with a hydrogen system on his Subaru. The first time I heard about such a thing is when he came over and built a small unit in my shop a few weeks ago. He has since ordered a commercial unit. Very interesting stuff.
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