Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-21-2004, 09:19 PM
whunter's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 17,416
an object graphic lesson

My only excuse for posting this junk Jaguar here is as an object graphic lesson.
If you do not understand what you are doing; do not touch it.

The previous owner was a young man.
He decided to DIY change the head gasket; to save money.
The following pictures show what happened.

Attached Thumbnails
an object graphic lesson-jag_cam_jam.jpg   an object graphic lesson-jag_cam_jam_2.jpg   an object graphic lesson-jag_cam_jam_3.jpg   an object graphic lesson-jag_cam_jam_4.jpg   an object graphic lesson-jag_cam_jam_5.jpg  

__________________
ASE Master Mechanic
asemastermechanic@juno.com

Prototype R&D/testing:
Thermal & Aerodynamic System Engineering (TASE) Senior vehicle instrumentation technician.
Noise Vibration and Harshness (NVH).
Dynamometer.
Heat exchanger durability.
HV-A/C Climate Control.
Vehicle build.
Fleet Durability
Technical Quality Auditor.
Automotive Technical Writer

1985 300SD
1983 300D
1984 190D
2003 Volvo V70
2002 Honda Civic

https://www.boldegoist.com/

Last edited by whunter; 05-06-2008 at 10:31 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-21-2004, 09:24 PM
whunter's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 17,416
an object graphic lesson pic 6

an object graphic lesson pic 6
Attached Thumbnails
an object graphic lesson-jag_cam_jam_6.jpg  

Last edited by whunter; 05-06-2008 at 10:31 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-21-2004, 09:39 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 164
What did he do (or not do) that caused all that carnage?
__________________
Dave

1995 S320
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-21-2004, 10:05 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Canton,Texas
Posts: 987
Ouch!
__________________
1985 300D Turbo ~225k
2000 F350 (Powerstroke) 4X4, SWB, CC, SRW, 6spd ~148k
1999 International 4900, DT466e (250hp/660 ft/lbs), Allison MD3060 ~73k
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-22-2004, 07:20 AM
whunter's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 17,416
set the cam timing wrong

Quote:
Originally posted by ehmand
What did he do (or not do) that caused all that carnage?
Hello ehmand
He set the cam timing wrong and junked the engine.

Last edited by whunter; 03-22-2004 at 07:28 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-22-2004, 09:01 AM
Hatterasguy's Avatar
Zero
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Milford, CT
Posts: 19,318
Ouch! What year Jag?
__________________
1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-22-2004, 10:05 AM
mb123mercedes
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
An (EXPENSIVE) object graphic lesson.

Louis
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-22-2004, 10:30 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: PA
Posts: 5,440
Always turn an engine by hand after any timing components are R&R. Thus will show any interferences before anything is damaged.

P E H
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-22-2004, 12:26 PM
whunter's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 17,416
1994 XJ6

Quote:
Originally posted by Hatterasguy
Ouch! What year Jag?
1994 XJ6
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-22-2004, 01:26 PM
Hatterasguy's Avatar
Zero
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Milford, CT
Posts: 19,318
Why is it junk? My grandparents had one of those, other than needing a valve job at like 60k miles it seemed to be a good car. It was nicer than there 86' but no match for the XJ8.
__________________
1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-22-2004, 03:22 PM
whunter's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 17,416
the car body is OK but

the engine is junked.
The young man who did this damage kept cranking until the battery was dead, recharged battery, and repeated the process at least fifteen minutes total.
The oil pump is seized with metal fragments.
The crank shaft makes a grinding sound as you turn it with a ratchet, and it binds with cylinder #4 at TDC.
Two valves are naked eye visibly bent.
The head has a naked eye visible warp from end to end.
The cam lobes are coated with heavy pitting rust.

Last edited by whunter; 05-06-2008 at 10:26 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-22-2004, 03:47 PM
wolf_walker's Avatar
Zen And The Art Of Diesel
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 2,050
Open hood, insert tuned port injected LT-1 from a dead corvette.

Car suddenly becomes something other than a pretty paper weight.




Seriously, it's amazing what some people do to motors, it's as if there are no books to be read or advice to be sought. I put a timing chain on my 78 Honda Z50 when I was eight years old, adjusted the valves, and had many years of service from it, this stuff isnt that complicated, people are just ignorant.
__________________
One more Radar Lover gone...
1982 VW Caddy diesel 406K 1.9L AAZ
1994 E320 195K
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-22-2004, 08:21 PM
lietuviai's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: SW WA
Posts: 5,744
Any Chevy smallblock V-8 would be a big improvement over the original Jag engine. There are many kits out there to do this swap.
Yes the LT1 is a fantastic engine.
__________________
DJ


84 300D Turbodiesel 190K with 4 speed manual sold in 03/2012
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-22-2004, 09:43 PM
whunter's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 17,416
I offered to install

a long life MB diesel in place of their gasser. LOL
For some reason they thought I was joking.
I showed them that it had been running on four cylinders for years.
Even a 190D would have beaten it off the line. LOL
A good used engine will be installed and out the door by Friday.
It would have been cheaper to buy and install the LT1 or a MB diesel.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-23-2004, 12:03 AM
wolf_walker's Avatar
Zen And The Art Of Diesel
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 2,050
An MB diesel is a facinating idea really, I love the ride and look of those Jags, more so the older XJ-S two door, but the 6 is a nice looking sedan. Wonder how much they weigh..

There actually a fun car with a 350 of any sort, guy brought me one with the drivetrain installed and a Holley 4V ProJection setup in a box once and a big grin. Neat setup, seems like he hit 25mpg on the highway eventually, was running a 700R4 auto OD with a lockup converter. A vast improvement over the original mill.

__________________
One more Radar Lover gone...
1982 VW Caddy diesel 406K 1.9L AAZ
1994 E320 195K
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page