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Old 06-14-2017, 12:49 AM
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Cash in hand... Just saying. :-)
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Old 06-15-2017, 10:08 AM
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Cash in hand and ready to purchase as well.

Please keep us posted..

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Old 07-07-2017, 10:39 PM
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I also would like to purchase one of these upgraded overflow valves when they become available again. Please keep me up to date. Thank you.
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Old 05-31-2018, 06:01 PM
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SPRINGS JUST ARRIVED TODAY. I will get all back orders out in the mail tomorrow. Thanks everyone for your extensive patience
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Old 07-19-2017, 09:07 AM
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Count me in for purchase of upgraded overflow valve. I can return you an empty housing if needed (you know the story).
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Old 02-16-2018, 08:18 AM
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In stock very soon !

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Old 06-04-2018, 09:03 AM
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Perhaps this is a stupid question, but searching here and via google to see other forums....

What is the process to remove the lift pump for refurbishment?

Ive pulled the spring before with everything on the car. Measured fine. But it seems like this would be a smart mod to do in general, and if doing this, might as well update these nearly 40year old pumps at the same time.

I can't seem to find a good pictorial or write up. I'm just not sure if it's particularly complex or if there are any issues to watch out for.

I did find a good OM606 how to on here but that's not a 616/617.

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2008 ML320 CDI (199k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (442k)
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:42 PM
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Perhaps this is a stupid question, but searching here and via google to see other forums....

What is the process to remove the lift pump for refurbishment?

Ive pulled the spring before with everything on the car. Measured fine. But it seems like this would be a smart mod to do in general, and if doing this, might as well update these nearly 40year old pumps at the same time.

I can't seem to find a good pictorial or write up. I'm just not sure if it's particularly complex or if there are any issues to watch out for.

I did find a good OM606 how to on here but that's not a 616/617.

Thanks!
It's pretty easy. Three nuts and a paper gasket keep the pump flush with the Injector pump. First remove the fuel filter line. Next remove the primer pump, you should then be able to remove the plastic line compression fitting to the secondary filter with a flare nut wrench. Loosen those three nuts and back the pump off the studs.

Once you remove the pump, you want to remove the flare fit/mount, the spring and valve is underneath. On the bottom of the lift pump under the port you connect to the primary fuel filter, is another nut that gives you access to another spring and valve. On the back of the pump, there's a roller/cam lobe/tappet (forgive me) that interfaces with the IP that you can disassemble and remove. Once you remove the plunger, deep in the bore is a tiny o-ring you can replace (keeps oil and fuel from mixing). The giant hex head in the front of the pump contains the main pressure spring. Apparently, if your spring is not broken (99% likely to be fine) it's a good idea not to mess with removing that cap to replace the crush washer -unless of course it's leaking which is equally unlikely. Getting all this stuff off the pump when it's not mounted is a b_stard. Lots of soft wood in a vice so you can crank down on the nuts with a breaker bar and deep sockets. Just be careful when you're mounting the pump in the vice that you don't clamp down on that flange (the one that mounts to the IP) as apparently it's a little fragile.

It's an easy job, just a little annoying because some of those valves/nuts/attachments are on pretty tight. I had a nearly impossible time removing one of them -nothing fit but a crescent wrench which stripped painfully with every turn. Later had help with an angle grinder removing a small bit of metal to fit a socket, then no problem.
When you reinstall the pump, use Gasgacinch or permatex high tack sealant on the studs and the gasket -mine leaked with the new gasket alone.
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Old 06-04-2018, 05:56 PM
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It's pretty easy. Three nuts and a paper gasket keep the pump flush with the Injector pump. First remove the fuel filter line. Next remove the primer pump, you should then be able to remove the plastic line compression fitting to the secondary filter with a flare nut wrench. Loosen those three nuts and back the pump off the studs.

Once you remove the pump, you want to remove the flare fit/mount, the spring and valve is underneath. On the bottom of the lift pump under the port you connect to the primary fuel filter, is another nut that gives you access to another spring and valve. On the back of the pump, there's a roller/cam lobe/tappet (forgive me) that interfaces with the IP that you can disassemble and remove. Once you remove the plunger, deep in the bore is a tiny o-ring you can replace (keeps oil and fuel from mixing). The giant hex head in the front of the pump contains the main pressure spring. Apparently, if your spring is not broken (99% likely to be fine) it's a good idea not to mess with removing that cap to replace the crush washer -unless of course it's leaking which is equally unlikely. Getting all this stuff off the pump when it's not mounted is a b_stard. Lots of soft wood in a vice so you can crank down on the nuts with a breaker bar and deep sockets. Just be careful when you're mounting the pump in the vice that you don't clamp down on that flange (the one that mounts to the IP) as apparently it's a little fragile.

It's an easy job, just a little annoying because some of those valves/nuts/attachments are on pretty tight. I had a nearly impossible time removing one of them -nothing fit but a crescent wrench which stripped painfully with every turn. Later had help with an angle grinder removing a small bit of metal to fit a socket, then no problem.
When you reinstall the pump, use Gasgacinch or permatex high tack sealant on the studs and the gasket -mine leaked with the new gasket alone.
Thank you very much, this is a wonderful write-up!
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1981 240D (73K)
1982 300CD (169k)
1985 190D (169k)
1991 350SD (116k)
1991 350SD (206k)
1991 300D (228k)
2008 ML320 CDI (199k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (442k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (267k)

Past Diesels:
1983 300D (228K), 1985 300D (233K), 1993 300D 2.5T (338k), 1993 300SD (291k)
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:23 PM
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http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/diesel-performance-tuning/125547d1415060926-performance-overflow-valve-valve-2.jpg

Can someone measure the ball bearing and give me a dimensions?




I must have lost it and am wondering if I use a ball bearing from something else that is 5.9 mm/.23 inches
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Old 11-06-2018, 12:05 AM
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Its either 6.00 or 6.35mm and probably along the lines of G10 or better.
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:40 AM
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It's 6.00 mm
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Old 11-06-2018, 09:17 AM
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Out of my current batch, I have aroud 50 left for the PMs I got. You can order here or at www.dieselfuelinjector.guru
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Old 11-06-2018, 06:32 PM
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Different check valve I pulled from a junkyard... not able to be changed to a better spring. Glad I didn't have this one...
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It's 6.00 mm
Well I'm going to stay with my 5.9 mm instead of cutting my junkyard unit to get the ball bearing.
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:00 PM
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Plenty of springs left for 2019 ... around 60+

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