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Old 09-22-2010, 11:09 AM
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reserve free auction on ebay... have a friend with another screen name outbid everyone. That way you can control what it sells for... sounds shady but I know that is what some people do.
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Old 10-16-2010, 09:25 PM
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reserve free auction on ebay... have a friend with another screen name outbid everyone. That way you can control what it sells for... sounds shady but I know that is what some people do.
That's called shill bidding and is illegal. If you want to control what it sells for use a reserve.
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Old 10-16-2010, 10:31 PM
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That's called shill bidding and is illegal. If you want to control what it sells for use a reserve.
Shill bidding is not "illegal," it is a way of life on fleabay.

Using a Reserve does nothing to "control" anything. Using the Reserve is for the insecure anyway.
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I've been looking for one like this. Did we get a selling price yet?
It's located where?
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I'm in mid state SC and I don't know what to ask..

I'm in Camden SC and i just don't know what to ask for it...
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:29 PM
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Shill bidding is not "illegal," it is a way of life on fleabay.

Using a Reserve does nothing to "control" anything. Using the Reserve is for the insecure anyway.
While shill bidding may be rampant on eBay, it is in fact illegal in every state.
"...there are no states where shill bidding is allowed. It's a federal felony offense. If it occurs in an online auction, then it's considered wire fraud and is punishable by up to 5 yrs in prison plus significant fines/restitution. Additionally, every state has laws against fraud, and shill bidding constitutes fraud.
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:19 AM
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While shill bidding may be rampant on eBay, it is in fact illegal in every state.
"...there are no states where shill bidding is allowed. It's a federal felony offense. If it occurs in an online auction, then it's considered wire fraud and is punishable by up to 5 yrs in prison plus significant fines/restitution. Additionally, every state has laws against fraud, and shill bidding constitutes fraud.
You missed the point; claiming "shill bidding is illegal," or "placing a Reserve on any auction," controls nothing. Your original claims don't offer any change in any outcomes of any auction.

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It sounds like a great car! Good luck on it, glad to help!
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Old 10-19-2010, 06:36 AM
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You missed the point; claiming "shill bidding is illegal," or "placing a Reserve on any auction," controls nothing. Your original claims don't offer any change in any outcomes of any auction.

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It sounds like a great car! Good luck on it, glad to help!
I missed the point?
The poster I responded to stated that the OP should run an auction and shill bid. I stated that was illegal which is factually correct. I also stated they should use a reserve if they wanted to control the price. That is also factually correct. A reserve controls the minimum the car will sell for. And with a shill bid you quite often wind up with no sale as the shill ends up being the high bidder.

When I originally posted regarding shill bidding being illegal, I wasn't offering advice on how to change the outcomes of any auctions. It seems you've taken the ball and run with it for some reason. The bidders always determine the outcome of an auction. I was merely stating the proper way of protecting one's interest in a vehicle.
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