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Old 10-11-2006, 08:32 AM
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W124 Performance Models List

While researching my AMG E35 project, I started to make a list of performance stats for W124 models (>=3L engine), both stock and tuned:

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Model__________________	Engine		Power			Torque			0-100km/h Top Speed	Final Ratio
500AMM's 500E 6.0K___	M119 6.0L V8	433kW(580bhp)@????	782NM(577lb/ft)@????	?.?sec	???km/h(???mph)	?.??
Pumpish's 300E Turbo__	M103 3.0L I6	418kW(560bhp)@????	700NM(516lb/ft)@????	<4.0s	???km/h(???mph)	?.??
Brabus E V12___________	M120 7.3L V12	390kW(523bhp)@5700	755NM(557lb/ft)@3700	4.5sec	307km/h(191mph)	?.??
Brabus E500 6.9________	M120 6.9L V12	375kW(503bhp)@????	705NM(520lb/ft)@????	?.?sec	304km/h(189mph)	?.??
Brabus E500 6.5________	M119 6.5L V8	336kW(450bhp)@4700	663NM(489lb/ft)@3800	4.8sec	320km/h(199mph)	?.??
Brabus 500E 6.0________	M119 6.0L V8	304kW(408bhp)@????
Blown_M104's E32K______	M104 3.2L I6	301kW(404bhp)@6400	463NM(341lb/ft)@3800	?.?sec	???km/h(???mph)	?.??
AMG E60 Limited________	M119 6.0L V8	298kW(399bhp)@5750	616NM(454lb/ft)@3810	5.0sec	282km/h(175mph)	2.82
Renntech 500E/E500 6.0	M119 6.0L V8	288kW(386bhp)@5700	540NM(398lb/ft)@3800	5.2sec	250km/h(155mph)	2.82
AMG E60________________	M119 6.0L V8	280kW(376bhp)@5500	580NM(428lb/ft)@3750	5.2sec	282km/h(175mph)	2.82
AMG Hammer 300E 6.0_	M117 6.0L V8	280kW(375bhp)@5750	552NM(407lb/ft)@4000	5.2sec	300km/h(186mph)	2.24
AMG Hammer 300E 5.6_	M117 5.6L V8	268kW(360bhp)@5500	511NM(377lb/ft)@4000	5.4sec	286km/h(178mph)	2.24
Lotec 320CE Turbo______	M104 3.2L I6	268kW(360bhp)@????
Turbo Technics E320 TT	M104 3.2L I6	257kW(345bhp)@6400	454NM(335lb/ft)@4500	6.0sec	250km/h(155mph)	2.65
Lotec 300E Turbo_______	M103 3.0L I6	253kW(340bhp)@5500	441NM(325lb/ft)@2800	5.2sec	274km/h(170mph)	3.07
Turbo Technics 300E TT	M104 3.0L I6	250kW(335bhp)@????	441NM(325lb/ft)@2800	6.2sec	250km/h(155mph)	?.??
500E/E500______________	M119 5.0L V8	240kW(322bhp)@5700	450NM(332lb/ft)@3900	6.1sec	250km/h(155mph)	2.82
Mosselman 300E-24 TT	M104 3.0L I6	239kW(320bhp)@6500	425NM(313lb/ft)@4000	5.9sec	241km/h(150mph)	3.27
Turbo Technics 300E TT	M103 3.0L I6	231kW(310bhp)@6000	413NM(305lb/ft)@2750	6.5sec	241km/h(150mph)	3.07
Mosselman E320 TT____	M104 3.2L I6	227kW(305bhp)@5500	420NM(310lb/ft)@3850	6.3sec	250km/h(155mph)	?.??
Mosselman 300E TT____	M103 3.0L I6	218kW(292bhp)@6000	395NM(291lb/ft)@4250	6.3sec	217km/h(135mph)	3.07
Brabus 300E-24 3.6____	M104 3.6L I6	213kW(285bhp)@6200	382NM(282lb/ft)@4400	5.9sec	260km/h(162mph)	?.??
Renntech 300E-24 3.6_	M104 3.6L I6	210kW(281bhp)@6600	374NM(276lb/ft)@4600	?.?sec	???km/h(???mph)	?.??	
400E/E420______________	M119 4.2L V8	205kW(275bhp)@5700	400NM(295lb/ft)@3900	7.2sec	250km/h(155mph)	2.24
Carlsson C35-24 (Kat)__	M104 3.0L I6	205kW(275bhp)@6550	354NM(261lb/ft)@4400	6.9sec	241km/h(150mph)	3.27
AMG E36 (Kat)__________	M104 3.6L I6	200kW(268bhp)@5750	385NM(284lb/ft)@3750	7.0sec	250km/h(155mph)	2.65
AMG 300E 3.4__________	M104 3.4L I6	200kW(268bhp)@6700	336NM(247lb/ft)@5000	?.?sec	241km/h(150mph)	3.27
TDI Supercharged 300E	M103 3.0L I6	198kW(265bhp)@5500	385NM(284lb/ft)@4250	?.?sec	???km/h(???mph)	?.??
Oettinger 300E 3.6_____	M104 3.6L I6	195kW(261bhp)@6300
Renntech 300E 3.6_____	M103 3.6L I6	190kW(255bhp)@5800	358NM(264lb/ft)@4400	?.?sec	???km/h(???mph)	?.??
Brabus 300E 3.6________	M103 3.6L I6	180kW(241bhp)@5750	360NM(265lb/ft)@4300	6.6sec	250km/h(155mph)	?.??
Oettinger 300E 3.6_____	M103 3.6L I6	177kw(237bhp)@5800	355NM(262lb/ft)@3900	?.?sec	250km/h(155mph)	?.??
AMG 300E 3.2 (Kat)_____	M103 3.2L I6	172kW(230bhp)@5750	317NM(234lb/ft)@4500	7.6sec	235km/h(146mph)	3.07
300E-24 (Kat)__________	M104 3.0L I6	164kW(220bhp)@6300	265NM(196lb/ft)@4600	7.9sec	241km/h(150mph)	3.27
320E/E320 (Kat)________	M104 3.2L I6	162kW(217bhp)@5500	310NM(229lb/ft)@3750	8.0sec	225km/h(140mph)	2.65
Brabus 300E____________	M103 3.0L I6	158kW(212bhp)@5900	288NM(212lb/ft)@4900	7.2sec	241km/h(150mph)	?.??
300E (Kat)_____________	M103 3.0L I6	132kW(177bhp)@5700	255NM(188lb/ft)@4400	8.1sec	217km/h(135mph)	3.07
Have I missed any?


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Old 10-11-2006, 03:24 PM
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There might be a couple, the TDI place in the UK has a TT and Supercharger setup, I dont know the site off hand. So you're doing a 3.5 conversion on the 104? Or are you getting a new 3.5 and tossing in there? Nice list btw
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:39 PM
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WOW! Great list! Thanks for taking the time to put it togather.
Here's the link AustinsCE was referring to:
http://www.tdi-plc.com/Merc300Eclass.html

If you want, you could throw in the 2.6 and the diesel, maybe the euro 200E as well.
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Old 10-12-2006, 10:33 AM
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btw the diff ratio on the 400e [stock] is 2.24.
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Old 10-14-2006, 08:51 AM
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AustinsCE, I will be using the crankshaft from an AMG C36 to increase the stroke of my 3.0L M103 to 3.4L (and calling it E35 because it sounds nicer)

I have added the TDI supercharged M103 to the list. Their turbocharged models use the Mosselman kit judging by the performance figures.
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Gotcha, sounds good. This should be a sticky now. I dont even know how you did that with the chart. Looks nice.
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:31 PM
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Great thread. I have a M103 Coupe and might have access to two or three motors. I was thinking of tearing a good motor down and building my own custom engine. Not sure if it will go in this 1988 car I have now but I could always build the engine, sell the 88 car and buy a newer W124 Coupe and swap the motors with the custom one. I really like the idea of a cam change. And porting and polishing among others for internals. Let's get this thread going. I want to learn more about power upgrades for the venerable inline 6 M103 and M104 motor.
Also interested in springs, shocks, sway bars, rims, brakes, wheel-arch rolling, exhaust, tires, intake, headers, manifold, throttle upgrade, alt upgrade, battery upgrade, etc.

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I have added a few more models, including Roman's custom M103 Turbo 300E.
If anyone can fill in any of the missing data or can spot any mistakes please let me know and I will update the list.
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Are "estimated" figures to be accepted for entry onto this list or do they need to be suppported by dyno graphs, time slips etc ?
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Estimated figures are fine, I'll just mark them as such until hard data is obtained.
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Old 03-07-2007, 05:15 PM
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Look at those numbers for torque from that modded 12. Thats things gotta have one helluva launch!
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I can ad 2 more to the list

W124 BRABUS 3.6-24 (M104) 285HP/6200 382Nm/4400 (My car)
0-100 Km/t 5.9 sec. and top speed 260 Km/t.
BRABUS 3.6-24 - 1450Kg/285HP=5.09Kg/HP
500E - 1750Kg/326HP=5.37Kg/HP
http://www.bilgalleri.dk/html/gal_visbil.asp?ID=69175&ipc=219870

W124 BRABUS 6.5-32 (M119) 450HP/4700 488.6 pound-feet of peak torque/3800 rpm Norway silver w124 I have seen IRL with no doubt the most complete awsome w124 ever. 0-100 4.8sec. top 320 Km/t

W124 BRABUS 7.3-48 (M120) Just some nice pictures
http://bilgalleri.dk/html/alb_vis.asp?AlbumID=6962

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What about the 2.8 DOHC. that is a mighty fine engine.
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What about the 2.8 DOHC. that is a mighty fine engine.
Bore it out to 3ltrs and it might make the >=3L engine list
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The m104 2.8 liter if this is what you are talking about has the same bore and pistons as the 3.2l. The stroke is different. I actually took the crank out of a 3.0l cis m104, same as m103 and installed it with rods on 2.8 pistons. Everything fits perfectly. I have not run that motor yet, but it is assembled and
all clearences are ok. This would be a pretty cheap upgrade for 2.8 motors if you spent the time your self.
I would also like to add that I am putting down 298 rwhp on my car.
supercharged m104 3.2l. I will have to find the dyno graph.


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