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Price for an ML500$
Hey guys I've been looking at some Ml500's brand new 2007 to buy and I just wanted your input on how much I should pay out the door. There is one at MB manhatten for 63,xxx with package 3 keyless go, parktronic etc. I was thinking I can atleast take 10 percent off that price what do you guys think. Also, do you think cash would be able to take more off vs. finance?
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Talk him down thinking your going to finance. When you get him to the lowest price offer cash. I bought a new Tahoe this way (in 2002) and got it for about 4000 less then the MSRP. The manager was a little peeved.
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Any particular reason why you need to get the ML500 versus the ML350 (towing, heavy hauling, etc.)? A steep price hike for the additional cylinders in the wake of climbing fuel costs, IMHO.
I checked www.MBUSA.com for their option package costs, and the "gee-whiz" options that include the parktronic and keyless go are a pretty penny! Consider that $63K would get you in a moderately equipped GL450. I mention all of this since I just got my '07 ML350 a week ago for about $15K less than that out the door...with decent options as well. Premium sound package, navigation and satellite radio, as well as the appearance and sport packages.
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Yea i need the extra torque for towing a boat. I was thinking i can atleast talk the guy down 10 percent of msrp out the door. I just hate haggeling because the dealer makes it seem like they are not making any money. I look at it this way though if 3 hours of haggling takes off approx. 6300 dollars then it was well worth it.
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If you tow a lot, and want the torque, get the diesel. Very close in price to the 500, GOBS more torque, and 20% better fuel economy (on fuel that is cheaper than premium these days) to boot. The only downside is the availibility of the diesels is tighter than gasoline models.
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This particular dealership did have one, but it was sparsely equipped, with the least desireable color/interior combo available. EPA fuel consumption estimates on the sticker weren't dramatically lower than the gassers...maybe a 2 mpg improvement (over the V6)...not enough to warrant a closer look...does the high sulphur content in domestic diesel fuel have anything to do with that?
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2009 ML350 (106K) - Family vehicle 2001 CLK430 Cabriolet (80K) - Wife's car 2005 BMW 645CI (138K) - My daily driver 2016 Mustang (32K) - Daughter's car |
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Yes, they are hard to find. But, I am not sure what you mean about the MPG ratings. Even the EPA ratings show a 30% better use of fuel for the diesel v. an ML500 (combined mileage is 20 MPG on the CDI, and only 14 on the ML500). Using 1/3 less fuel is a BIG improvement in my mind, especially when the vehicle makes way more usable torque than the 500--plus, right now in the Chicagoland area, premium (which an ML500 would require) is $3.75 a gallon; while the ULSD (ultra low sulphur diesel) is going for around $3.00 a gallon. If I had the means, a 320 CDI would be in my garage.
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My mpg comparison was for the ML350 (see my last post). Since I was specifically shopping for the V-6 equipped ML350, I was recanting my shopping experience, not Jugo Driver#1s'...
...granted, in his case, there would be significant fuel savings when you compare the CDI against the 500...
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2009 ML350 (106K) - Family vehicle 2001 CLK430 Cabriolet (80K) - Wife's car 2005 BMW 645CI (138K) - My daily driver 2016 Mustang (32K) - Daughter's car |
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I see that, but the difference in mileage between the cdi and the ML 350 is still around 20% (21 MPG combined on the dielsel compared to 17 on the 350 (which also requires premium like the 500). 4 MPG times the 80 cents a gallon price difference could be a HUGE savings, plus with the diesel you are getting so much more power, and a powerplant that will last twice as long.
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Hey guys I dont want to get the diesel because I want to look at supercharging the v8 down the road. Any way is 10 percent reasonble guys?
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The diesel isn't sold in NY state anyways. NY and several other northeastern states adopted California emissions a few years ago. No diesels there.
Several years ago MB adopted a strategy to sell vehicles at sticker price. The spread between what the dealer pays and the sticker is actually quite small. Looking at edmunds.com the invoice on the ML is ~$59K. There's also a $3K incentive and 1.9% financing on the car right now (at least in my zip code - yours may vary). Last year I bought a new MB (for a relative...) which had a $5K incentive. Some dealers planned to pocket the full $5K and would not budge off full sticker. Others offered about $6K off. I doubt you'll get 10% off. If you manage 6,7, or 8% it would seem to be a good offer. My $.02, - JimY |
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I think 10% is a pretty typical amount off. When I was looking for an ML500 early this year, they were very hard to find. I ended up with a GL450, and I'm very happy I switched. The extra room is great. I ended up leasing, & got a lot more vehicle for about the same $$ as a loaded ML500 would have cost.
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I'm surprised the salseman I worked with was open to deal...I noticed the manufacture date on mine shows 05/2007...I took possession at the end of May...the paint was barely dry!
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2009 ML350 (106K) - Family vehicle 2001 CLK430 Cabriolet (80K) - Wife's car 2005 BMW 645CI (138K) - My daily driver 2016 Mustang (32K) - Daughter's car |
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