I have seen Auschwitz and you come out with an undescribable feeling. First impression was that the town (Oswiecim, pronounced "oshvienchym") its located in was very dull. Its more or less a "boony" like what you would expect in the US. At the main train station there were buses that took you to the camp or you could just take a taxi. Those who visit the site will learn more about it than what the "history books" here teach.

Its shameful that such a percentage never heard of Auschwitz. Whats also shameful that the other half that did hear about the death camp think that only Jews were killed there... and the millions of non-Jews of various ethnicties are forgotten.

What Hitler did was a drop in the bucket compared to the total number of people wiped out by genocide in the last 100 years. But, it was very visual, and if nothing, highlighted what "western" nations are capable of.

So, why don't we get upset when it happens to a bunch of poor black people in Africa? We just call it "civil war" when it happens now. We pull out the "atrocities" card when we please, like in Iraq.

There are men that are much more evil than Hitler was, and they walk free.

As to the topic, well, what about parents? We seem to expect our kids to get 99.99% of their knowledge from the school. Hello, folks, they spend about 23 hours a week in class. Take away 56 hours a week for sleeping, and you've got 89 hours left. Somewhere in that 89 hours, people could perhaps help educate their own children. I remember this woman that wanted to sue the school system 'cause her grade six kid couldn't read. She found that out when the kid was 12? It took her that long to notice her kid couldn't READ? If your kids graduate from high school and you don't think they learned enough history, go ahead, show some initiative, and help them learn some. You might have to ban the X-box for an evening, boo-hoo.

__________________
John Shellenberg
1998 C230 "Black Betty" 240K

http://img31.exs.cx/img31/4050/tophat6.gif

Ask most Americans if they remember Manzanar, Tule Lake, Minidoka or Topaz.

It may depend on the generations that are asked. My mom and dad have gone over each year for about the past 15 or so and spoke with students in high school and college.

They eat it up. The bell rings and they are still sitting in their seats. They are taught about their history the same way we are taught about what we did to the native Americans, Japanese during WWII, the blacks since the birth of this nation. That is to say very little if anything.

Denial, it ain’t just a river in Egypt.

__________________
Sent from an agnostic abacus

2014 C250 21,XXX my new DD ** 2013 GLK 350 18,000 Wife's new DD**

- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

Blame that on the teachers.................... What happened needs to be remembered.....there are too many people that actually believe it never happened, and the millions of Jews that died were never killed.....and the mental defiecients, and the Gypsies, russians etc......

__________________
Proud owner of ....
1971 280SE W108
1979 300SD W116
1983 300D W123
1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper
1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel
1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified)
---------------------
Section 609 MVAC Certified
---------------------
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Well, here is the history in a nutshell. In Europe in the 1890's, there were Marxian Socialists all over the place.There were Polish Socialists . There were Russian Socialists , there were German Socialists , and yes, there were Jewish Socialists . Inside Russia, it was even more complex, due to the polyglot nature of Russian society. There were Belorussian socialists. There were Tartar socialists. There were Ukranian socialists. There were Cossack socialists. There were Georgian socialists. Each of them formed Socialists organizations. One of them that operated in Russia was called the Jewish Bund. At that time, Jews in Russia were brutally discriminated against and forced to live in ghettos, and as a result political radicalism was rampant. The Bund was a well organized and effective political movement.

Prior to the Russian Revolution, the Socialists had split into two blocks - the Bolsheviks, who believed the path to utopian socialism should be directed by an authoritarian dictatorship directed by an elite, a concept called "Dictatorship of the Proletariat". They believed this was the quickest way to the classless utopia envisioned by Marx. The other faction were called the Mensheviks, who believed socialism should be a mass movement, with popular consent at its core, a democratic communism as it were, and they wished a society that evolved into utopia slowly over time. The Bolsheviks, in order to differentiate themselves from all the organizations calling them Socialist This and That, adopted their official name as The Communist Party of Russia - the first Communist Party.

The Jewish Bund was a member of the Menschevik faction, and the reason for this was they wished to maintain a separate Jewish identity within a Communist movement. The Bolsheviks, virilent atheists and advocates of total and immediate classlessness of the most extreme sort, adamantly opposed those positions. Men like Lenin, Trotsky, and the others mentioned, were Bolsheviks. Some were Jews, but religious identity had nothing to do with anything, and was idealogical heresy to them. The original Central Committee of the Communist Party was not a bunch of old Jews hanging around whipping up some evil idealogy, it was a group of radical thinkers drawn from all these disparate Socialist organizations - they were men who were the most radical within their original Socialist organizations, too radical as it were, and they all coalesced under Lenin. The ethnic Socialist organizations in Russia all began to choose sides when the Revolution began. In general, the Russians, the Georgians, the Cossacks, all sided with the Boshevik faction, but it was actually a great big caldron where people from all these factions ended up all over the map. During the 1917-1920 Russian Civil War, the Bolsheviks and the Menscheviks were allies under the Red flag. After 1920, the Bolsheviks stamped out the Menscheviks, and the Jewish Bund along with it.

History on this is very hard to find on the Net for one reason - type in "Jewish Communist Origins" or anything remotely like it into google and you will get page after page of rantings by white supremists nuts, all hawking Dacia's shopworn Nazi philosophies on the "Jewish" origins of Communism. But the history is there if you look. You are right about anti-Semitism being rampant in Europe, but it was Hitler who first tied Communism and Judaism together as some kind of single menace that had to be exterminated. Exaggerations of blood relationships and outright lies about Jewish parentage was all part of their propaganda. It is effective propaganda. How can we blame those Germans for 11 million exterminated, when "a jewish idea of Communism" exterminated twice that? Why, we don't have mass-murder here, we have a war between the White Race and Jewish Communism, don't we? In fact, that is the actual world view of the neo-Nazis of what actually happened in World War II, and this is the theory Dacia attempts to advance.

Good idea.