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Get a traffic attorney in the jurisdiction where you got the ticket. They are relatively cheap. The attorney will be able to get you several options and most likely keep the ticket off your record. 22 mph over is not that bad. I once got a 121mph in a 55mph that never, ever touched my record, but it did cost around $700.00 to disappear.
Now to all the ridiculous people who say you deserve what you get, get a life. Driver inattention is the number one cause of accidents, not speeding. Just another example of american self-righteous bung hole idiots.
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I've very much gotten to the point where I will challenge any future invitations by the various collection agency to part with my money. They truly are after only those, who will pay the fine without question. I am 3 for 3 since starting this, two of my own, and one as a "witness" for a friend. The one for the friend was for a school zone in the town of Roanoke. They have deliberately offset the two directions school zone speed limit warning lights, to turn on and off a few minutes apart. They nail a couple of victims every day. I've witnessed this "malfunction" personally. When I went in to testify on my friends behalf, and told them that I would point this problem out, they couldn't tear up the ticket fast enough. They were real adimate about keeping this problem hush hush as well. One warning for anyone unfortunate enough to deal with the Roanoke city moffia. Their court IS a kangaroo court, and they are downright bold in their "highly questionable" activiites. |
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VA is a LOT harder to get a liscense even for people who belong here........ It should have been a lot harder I agree......and there are far easier states than here. That could have happened in lots of other states......Particularly those states and people who think illegal aliens should be issed Licenses.
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Look at the drivers instruction book, available for free at any drivers license office. It is clearly stated that driving is a priveledge, and not a right. It is why you are issued a license, fined and ticketed for breaking the law, and can be subject to having it revoked for habitual, or serious offenses. |
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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. The Constitution doesn't "give" us rights, we the people "give" rights to the government. A privledge is something that can be given or taken away on a whim. You can give your kid the privledge of staying up past his bedtime. or not. He has no right. But imagine if you went down to the DMV to get a license and they said no. No reason, just no. If it's a privledge they can do that. That's why your licence cannot be taken without due process of law. It's a right, they can regulate and licence it but they can't just arbitrarily give or take that right away. |
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Another option, if its not too late, is to go to court and see what you can get. Most judges (at least Wisconsin and Illinois) will adjust it to just under a threshhold but keep the fine the same 22 over to 19 over, 16 over to 14 over. Its all about the $$$ and nothing else in speeding, except in school zones, you get the gas chamber for speeding in school zones.
If you get real lucky they will even reclassify as a non moving violation. The key is go to court, it is worth the unpaid day off work. good luck
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Yur right that there is nothing on the books that says you must be given a license, that I know of, because it's inconcievable that the DMV will just turn you away, however there is plenty on the books that says that your license can not be taken away without due process of law. As in the govenrment shall not deprive you of life, liberty or property without due process of law. A DL, like other rights can be regulated but because it's regulated doesn't mean its a privilige. Last edited by koop; 12-10-2004 at 02:54 PM. |
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This is also very different from owning a firearm. The very existance of that right in our constitution, keeps our government from turning on its citizens. One doesn't have to dig very far into the history books to see what happens when citizens become subjects to their government. |
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Again, there are time place and manner restrictions but that doesn't make them any less of a right. For example, during the Republican convention they had protest zones. You had your right to free speech, you just had to do it in a designated area.
A DL is the same, it's regulatory, but it's still a right. The gov wants to ensure that you know how to drive before you exercise that right, and they can take the right away, just like they can take your right to vote away, if you commit a crime but it's still a right. The word privilige is not found in the Constitution. |
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Sorry, but no matter how hard you try to spin this, you will not convince me that driving is a right, when it's clearly written out in any state driving manual, that it is a privledge. After sitting in traffic, due to yet another major collision on hwy 114 tonight, IMO, it's a priveledge that is far too freely given, and not revoked agressively enough. |
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