He claimed that New Orleans was spared because it has a Democrat gov. who supports Kyoto, while Mississippi has a Conservative Republican anti Kyoto Gov. and thats why it was diverted to Mississippi.

How stupid can this guy be? He only lives off his fathers name.

Minister of Enviorment of Germany blames Katrina on the US not signing onto the Kyoto treaty,,,so much for the stereotype of Germans being intelligent.

I really wish you had included a link to your asseration, as I have found nothing on RFK saying New Orleans was "spared" for any reason. I did however read an article where RFK stated that the Guv of Miss was instrumental in torpedoing the Kyoto agreement back when he was a top RNC fat cat. Poor Haley. Yesterday's "lunacy" is tomorrow's political hot potato. Given that news reports now say that thousands are dead, perhaps its time average people start looking into whether Kyoto is lunacy or not. The fury of this hurricane makes one wonder, does it not?

Here's the Link

He is drawing a parallel, and more importantly, reminding us that $big business$ controls the gov't and the consequences of greed and ignorance will be seen in our lifetime.

From the article...

"Well, the science is clear. This month, a study published in the journal Nature by a renowned MIT climatologist linked the increasing prevalence of destructive hurricanes to human-induced global warming.

Now we are all learning what it’s like to reap the whirlwind of fossil fuel dependence which Barbour and his cronies have encouraged. Our destructive addiction has given us a catastrophic war in the Middle East and--now--Katrina is giving our nation a glimpse of the climate chaos we are bequeathing our children"


and as for the final paragraph, its obviously a joke on pat robertson and his ilk, but it has a two pronged purpose... to make fun of the man, and by reminding us of his previous foolish statments, it keeps his scary/laughable most recent statements in the forefront of the public's mind.


luvrpgrl take your vitriol and half-truths eslewhere.

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http://www.stopglobalwarming.org/campaigns/sgw/global_warming/19

"...skeptical hurricane scientists were quick to point out that worldwide weather records were too inadequate for a thorough examination of such trends. They said that would require an analysis of storm activity going back hundreds if not thousands of years.

"There is absolutely no empirical evidence. The people who have a bias in favor of the argument that humans are making the globe warmer will push any data that suggests that humans are making hurricanes worse, but it just isn't so," said William Gray, a Colorado State University meteorologist who is considered one of the fathers of modern tropical cyclone science and who sharply questions Emanuel's conclusions.

"A lot of my colleagues who have been around a long time are very skeptical of this idea that global warming is leading to more frequent or intense storms," Gray said. "In the Atlantic, there has been a change recently, sure. But if you go back to the 1930s, you see a lot of storms again. These are natural cycles, not related to changes in global temperature. I can't say there is no human signal there, but it's minute."

once again myopia yields a distorted "bigger picture".

I'm betting that the frequency and intensity of tropical storms is weakly correlated with global warming, whatever the cause of global warming. I think that the weather and climatic records indicate a warming trend and I think there is some correlation to the exponential increase in greenhouse gases since the industrial revolution. I think the USA and the rest of the world's population should undertake measures to reduce, in real terms, the introduction of anthropogenic greenhouse gases.

So what?

Only a complete freaking fool would think that a butterfly in buffalo's ass has anything to do with hurricanes.

If Kyoto had been signed and fully implemented to the greatest degree possible, there would have been NO EFFECT on the current level of greenhouse gases. The SAME conditiosn would have been present today whether or not the USA embraced Kyoto when it was passed by Congress (anybody remember when that was?).

Gases would have continued to increase but to a lesser attributable degree to the USA. It's a dumbass comment by a couple of nitwits scoring political points in a time of national disaster. F-em both.

BFD.

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Mr Byrn,
Nice of you to leave out this part:
"In 1998, Republican icon Pat Robertson warned that hurricanes were likely to hit communities that offended God. Perhaps it was Barbour’s memo that caused Katrina, at the last moment, to spare New Orleans and save its worst flailings for the Mississippi coast."

And he wasn't joking, I HEARD the interview, I dont think RFK jr is capable of joking, I have heard him interviewed too many times, so take your "half truths" comment and shove it up your......

RFK had to be kidding if and when he said that. His envionmental pronouncements are solid most of the time.

See if you can dig one up, present it, and deal with it rather than just running the guy down.

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I'll agree that most of the people making any comments about global warming are barely informed. Answer me this all you skeptics: when you can take a cruise ship across the North Pole, and it might not be long at this rate, you still gonna be denying it?

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I wonder if the denial is not so much that it is not happening. It may be. Perhaps the disagreement is more of culpability. Who or what is causing global warming? I believe these warming cooling cycles are natural and have occured for eons before we became what we are.

elementally, I think temperature fluctuations would occur with or without us.

You may be right. I hope you're right.

It's pretty obvious, though, that we humanoids are no lightweights when it comes to affecting reality on this planet. Many of the ocean's fisheries are on the ropes or heading that way. New England fisherman howled when cod was put off limits. It had to be done, IMO. One of my best buds from high school, still fishes halibut outside of Juneau and he tells me about the limited windows for fishing they are allowed. He grouses about it but admits it has to be done.

Going back a ways, bison covered the great plains. One of the great natural wonders, IMO. Didn't take long for European know-how to make big changes there. I saw a satellite photo of the Puget Sound area, my old stomping ground (Oly and Seattle, WA) a while back and it was striking. Most of the Seattle/Tacoma area was grey. You could see the clearcutting in the Olympics very clearly. The whole area was checkerboarded with it.

My point being; we're a big force -- we're powerful, no doubt about it. The carbon we are burning laid buried for millions and millions of years.

I sit in bumper to bumper traffic sometimes and consider the enormous amount of vehicles doing just that, every day. My mother is a missionary in Indonesia, and she says traffic and air pollution there is unbelievably thick.

I don't think we should be so quick to rule out human causes in warming. Right wing talk radio is on a crusade to pooh pooh the whole idea. Emitting global warming gasses all the while.

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The Kennedy boys are massing a relief carpool for displaced single women. Teddy leads the caravan, after a brief stop for refreshments in Chappaquiddick.

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Ho, ho, ho, stop it, you're killing me.

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Better read Kyoto. The estimate is preventing a .4 degrees rise in temp in the next 100 years. Explain how signing Kyoto in the last 5 years would make a difference. Also explain why the number of strong hurricanes has been decreasing every decade for about the last 50 years.

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