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Old 10-27-2005, 04:30 PM
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Oil-for-Food/UN scandal deepens...

Tell me again why we're still tolerating the UN?... We need to cancel our membership and give them the boot NOW!

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U.N. to Detail Kickbacks Paid for Iraq's Oil


By WARREN HOGE
Published: October 27, 2005


UNITED NATIONS, Oct. 26 - More than 4,500 companies took part in the United Nations oil-for-food program and more than HALF of them paid illegal surcharges and kickbacks to Saddam Hussein, according to the independent committee investigating the program.

The country with the most companies involved in the program was Russia, followed by France, the committee says in a report to be released Thursday. The inquiry was led by Paul A. Volcker, former chairman of the Federal Reserve Board.


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The findings are in the committee's fifth and final report, a document of more than 500 pages that will detail how outside companies from more than 60 countries were able to evade United Nations controls and make money for themselves as well as for the Hussein government.

Three investigators who described their findings in interviews declined to name the companies, though they said the companies would be identified in the document on Thursday. They refused to speak on the record about the report until it is released.

The new report studies the people outside Iraq who profited illicitly and how they did it. It will identify companies and individuals who took part, both deliberately and inadvertently, and will chronicle in detail the experience of 30 to 40 of them, the investigators said.

In an interview, Mr. Volcker said that while he knew the naming of companies and the exposure of international "machinations" would draw attention, he hoped it would not obscure his committee's purpose in keeping the focus of their work on the need for United Nations reform.

"In my mind," he said, "this part of our investigation, looking at the manipulation of the program outside the U.N., strongly reinforces the case that the U.N. itself carries a large part of this responsibility and needs reform.

"Even though we are looking at it from the outside, it kind of screams out at you, 'Why didn't somebody blow a whistle?' The central point is that it all adds up to the same story. You need some pretty thoroughgoing reforms at the U.N."

Those manipulating the program ranged from established trading companies to front companies set up for the purpose, and included some companies of international reputation as well as many well known in their home countries, the investigators said.

Mr. Hussein received $1.8 billion in illicit income from surcharges and kickbacks on the sales of oil and humanitarian goods during 1996-2003, when the program ran, the committee concluded in its last report in September.

Earlier Volcker committee reports summarizing the year and a half of inquiries have examined the activities of the United Nations, finding the institution's management inept and corrupt, and providing evidence that the program's former director, Benon V. Sevan, received kickbacks himself. He has denied any wrongdoing.

The $64 billion program was set up by the Security Council to help ease the effects of United Nations sanctions on the 27 million Iraqis by supplying food and medicines in exchange for letting the Hussein government export oil.

The investigators said Thursday's report would detail how Mr. Hussein first steered the program to gain political advantage with political allies and countries in a position to ease the United Nations sanctions. Both Russia and France are veto-bearing members of the Security Council.

"Then it got corrupted with a capital C when Saddam figured out how to make money off of it by putting on the surcharges and kickbacks," one investigator said.

At first, he said, companies balked at paying the extra fees, and the oil sales slowed. At that point, "less orthodox companies" came forward and accepted the terms, opening the way for the program's full scale exploitation and allowing legitimate companies to buy oil from illegitimate ones.

Another investigator noted that in the years immediately preceding the program, smuggling of Iraqi oil in much larger amounts had been going on for years to the benefit of the economies of American allies, including Jordan and Turkey. In his last report, Mr. Volcker said this smuggling amounted to $10.99 billion.

This investigator suggested that this had a compromising effect on the Security Council's willingness to step in and stop the practice. "Three years, four years already, letting the oil flow into Jordan and Turkey, so now you're going to be very strict about this smaller volume of oil?" he asked. "Unlikely."

All the companies named have been notified, and many have replied, with some of their responses reflected in the final report, an investigator said.

"The responses range from absolute denial to complete admittance," he said. "Some said, 'We had no knowledge of it' - that's a pretty standard response - and some said, 'If we paid it, we don't know we paid it.' "

Mr. Volcker has noted in the past that his committee is not a law-enforcement body, and expects the information it gathers to be turned over to national prosecutors. The committee is expected to close down at the end of November, and investigators declined to discuss whether it might extend its life beyond then.

The committee said some companies had complained that the evidence against them was gathered in Iraq and was therefore not trustworthy. But a lead investigator said that in those cases where corroborating evidence was available, the Iraqi information turned out to be sound.

"Everybody down the line kept very meticulous records because Saddam told them, 'You get the surcharge from everybody,' " he said. "So they all wanted to document how they got the surcharge."

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/27/international/middleeast/27food.html
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:47 PM
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What a surprise.

When I worked in the City years ago we frequently had UN apparatchicks as customers,I found them be for the most part insufferably arrogant,reeking of entitlement as if their connection with that "humanitarian" institution endowed them with a semi-divine status.
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:50 PM
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What a surprise.

When I worked in the City years ago we frequently had UN apparatchicks as customers,I found them be for the most part insufferably arrogant,reeking of entitlement as if their connection with that "humanitarian" institution endowed them with a semi-divine status.
Not at all surprising. Your experience echoes the sentiments of other friends and acquaintances of mine who have had dealings with them as well.

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Yeah we were so outraged about companies dealing with Iraq we elected the CEO of one to be POTUS.

THE US OUT OF THE US NOW!!!!
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Mike . . . American's shocked that there's corruption and graft in large organizations, or in the government? That's funny, do you have any more breaking news?
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Mike . . . American's shocked that there's corruption and graft in large organizations, or in the government? That's funny, do you have any more breaking news?
Let's don't get started on THAT stale kettle of kippers...........
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Yeah we were so outraged about companies dealing with Iraq we elected the CEO of one to be POTUS.

THE US OUT OF THE US NOW!!!!

Who was in charge here when this all was allowed to take place......


Here's a hint.....it wasn't Bush.
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Who was in charge here when this all was allowed to take place......


Here's a hint.....it wasn't Bush.
No, he was busy picking the head of FEMA at the time . . .
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No, he was busy picking the head of FEMA at the time . . .

BS......This all took place when Bush was Still Gov of Texas...and your guy was whoring around instead of doing his job.
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Yeah, Bush only lost 9 Billion in Iraq. Gone, can't account for it.
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Yeah, Bush only lost 9 Billion in Iraq. Gone, can't account for it.
better than what allowed the Oil for Food scandle to run rampant for 8 years...plus there is one less middle eastern despot now.

And we all know your guys wanted it to keep going too. Just like the French and Germans were hoping for.
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Well, he may have been govenor when the program was first implemented, but according to the U.S. State Department's web site:

In May 2002, the United States led an initiative to streamline UN procedures for the export of goods into Iraq under the Program. This authorized the export of all goods, except those prohibited under the arms embargo or contained on a list of “dual-use” items that could have military or weapons of mass destruction applications. Items on this list, the so-called “Goods Review List,” are subject to special review procedures.

In spite of Iraqi subversion, Oil-for-Food has been a dramatic success. $25 billion in humanitarian supplies and equipment have been delivered to Iraq, and another $10 billion is in the pipeline. Caloric intake has doubled, and communicable diseases have declined significantly among the Iraqi population. The transportation, agriculture, and electricity sectors have also been rehabilitated. In his November 2002 Report to the Security Council on the Oil-for-Food Program, the UN Secretary-General observed that “the program has made and continues to make a major difference in the lives of ordinary Iraqis.”
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Well, he may have been govenor when the program was first implemented, but according to the U.S. State Department's web site:

In May 2002, the United States led an initiative to streamline UN procedures for the export of goods into Iraq under the Program. This authorized the export of all goods, except those prohibited under the arms embargo or contained on a list of “dual-use” items that could have military or weapons of mass destruction applications. Items on this list, the so-called “Goods Review List,” are subject to special review procedures.

In spite of Iraqi subversion, Oil-for-Food has been a dramatic success. $25 billion in humanitarian supplies and equipment have been delivered to Iraq, and another $10 billion is in the pipeline. Caloric intake has doubled, and communicable diseases have declined significantly among the Iraqi population. The transportation, agriculture, and electricity sectors have also been rehabilitated. In his November 2002 Report to the Security Council on the Oil-for-Food Program, the UN Secretary-General observed that “the program has made and continues to make a major difference in the lives of ordinary Iraqis.”

don't Pull this crap that this all happened only under Bush....Clinton went out of his way to suck up to the UN and the people there who were taking bribes left and right.......I'd be surprised if he wasn't getting money somehow.

We all know the Billions that France, Germany and Russia got to block every proposal to make Saddam follow the cease fire agreement he agreed to.

Now that my be normal in most third world countries and Louisiana...but its not legal or acceptile in most of the developed world.
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I'm glad to see you're feeling better.
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