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boneheaddoctor 12-15-2005 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by H2O2
Yes, the Iraq fiasco has been a waste of lives and resources, hasn't it? I'm glad we had this little talk.

Iraq was not a waste.....it was just way overdue...

aklim 12-15-2005 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Beal
I never knew we loved Iraq enough to lay down 2000 of our best men and women for their country.

Who says we love Iraq or any country to do that. I doubt we could care less if it wasn't in our interests.

mikemover 12-15-2005 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst
How's the vote going?

It's kind of embarrassing, isn't it? These ignorant peasants risk being murdered to make their fingers blue. And they turn-out in proportions that should make western democracies blue with envy.

Most Americans couldn't be bothered with actually going through the trauma of driving to a climate-controlled polling place conveniently near home. No shots, no bombs.

B

Pathetic, isn't it.

Mike

boneheaddoctor 12-15-2005 02:06 PM

Iraqi's are turning out in extremely high numbers to vote.....funny since the nay sayers (Democrats) were crying we "forced" democracy upon them and they really don't want it.....

Funny.......thats not how they would display that had they felt that way.

mikemover 12-15-2005 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel
The neo-cons love to brag about the Iraqi "vote" -- funny, I don't hear them bragging about the $500,000,000,000.00 that has ben wasted or the 2,xxx lives that they have ended. But gosh darn, dang, we 'mericans gots to make'm vote.

Hey, now you can join the Zeitgeist club (aka known as H202), and just call everyone you disagree with a "neo-con"! :rolleyes:

On a much more important note: I agree that we could have handled Saddam's removal in a more efficient, less expensive (in lives and $$), and decisive manner.... But what's done is done, and the end result is good for them, and more importantly, will be good for us.

Mike

boneheaddoctor 12-15-2005 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemover
Hey, now you can join the Zeitgeist club (aka known as H202), and just call everyone you disagree with a "neo-con"! :rolleyes:

On a much more important note: I agree that we could have handled Saddam's removal in a more efficient, less expensive (in lives and $$), and decisive manner.... But what's done is done, and the end result is good for them, and more importantly, will be good for us.

Mike

Now wait and see if all the young Iranians who don't fall for the hogwash the Mullahs spew and decide they want a democracy.......or the non-idiots in Syria (there has to be some) .........

H2O2 12-15-2005 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemover
Hey, now you can join the Zeitgeist club (aka known as H202), and just call everyone you disagree with a "neo-con"! :rolleyes:

On a much more important note: I agree that we could have handled Saddam's removal in a more efficient, less expensive (in lives and $$), and decisive manner.... But what's done is done, and the end result is good for them, and more importantly, will be good for us.

Mike

If it walks like a duck...

It would've been a helluva lot more efficient and inexpensive to keep up the UN's highly successful strategy of containment...ah, but that might be too difficult a task for our resident free-spending big government globe-trotting "libertarians".

boneheaddoctor 12-15-2005 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by H2O2
If it walks like a duck...

It would've been a helluva lot more efficient and inexpensive to keep up the UN's highly successful strategy of containment...ah, but that might be too difficult a task for our resident free-spending big government globe-trotting "libertarians".

yeah...right along with the Oil For food scam that brought that on and sustained it for so long.

H2O2 12-15-2005 03:16 PM

Scam and eggs
 
Given the futility and gross incompetence of the current scam strategy, anything looks better, even a far less expensive UN managed scam.

boneheaddoctor 12-15-2005 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by H2O2
Given the futility and gross incompetence of the current scam strategy, anything looks better, even a far less expensive UN managed scam.

oh really........You must love how the Mafia does things....The UN has commited the biggest scam in history adn you want to let them run things......perhaps you wish to Name Bernard Ebers to Repplace Koffie Annan as the head of that bunch of theives. Along with Kenneth Lay as deputy thief in charge.

mikemover 12-15-2005 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by H2O2
If it walks like a duck...

It would've been a helluva lot more efficient and inexpensive to keep up the UN's highly successful strategy of containment...ah, but that might be too difficult a task for our resident free-spending big government globe-trotting "libertarians".

I'd be willing spend 10 times as much, just so that the UN is NOT involved.

Sometimes it's just about principle. My disdain for the UN overpowers my usual disdain for "big government free spending".

Besides, the UN "containment" strategy didn't exactly foster democracy and freedom for the Iraqi citizens.... did it?.....

Mike

mikemover 12-15-2005 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by H2O2
Given the futility and gross incompetence of the current scam strategy, anything looks better, even a far less expensive UN managed scam.


Futility?

This is NOT how most people would define "futility":

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4531904.stm

Mike

boneheaddoctor 12-15-2005 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemover
Futility?

This is NOT how most people would define "futility":

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4531904.stm

Mike

Don't you know...thats all Bush sponsored propaganda....there was no election today...

mikemover 12-15-2005 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
Don't you know...thats all Bush sponsored propaganda....there was no election today...

Oh, yeah... I forgot. How stupid of me to actually believe that something good is happening there....

Mike

koop 12-15-2005 03:52 PM

sorry folks "democracy" and "free elections" are not the be all and end all. I was watching some coverage last night and while the reporter was talking, not one but two bombs went off.

Democracy doesn't work in the middle of civil war any more than an umbrella works in the middle of a hurricane. It's window dressing, a salve. The country is in shambles and people want to argue about making the trains run on time without realizing they have no trains.

What the country needs is an authoritave central government. Dictator, communism, facisim, whatever. But a parlimentary system in such a sharply divided country (in which 1/3 of the population are essentially unrepresented) is going to fall flat on it's face.


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