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Troops no longer happy...
http://www.nbc4.com/news/7541767/detail.html
Looks like the troops don't support the war any longer either... God Bless Them. |
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I've been saying, since I started posting here regularly several months ago, that this is the opinion shared by a wide majority of returning combat Marines. Admittedly, I have spoken only minimally with members of our other services, or with those who have not earned their CAR. I have spoken personally with many men whose mission is combat, versus support, and whose position, for some time now, is that we are doing far more harm in Iraq than we are good. Several forum members have taken issue with my statements, yet none has provided any real-world evidence to the contrary - particularly evidence in the form of something akin to statements made directly to them by fine young men who have watched friends perish and who have caused others to do the same.
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Overall, I'm surprised the majority of them want out, but I can't blame them. In fact, I'm glad that they see the reality of the situation, but they have to do as they're told because that's what they signed up for.
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Of course Marines are pissed. They are on the sharp end of the spear. They see death and misery and not much change. Well no wonder, look where they are. Look at the time mag poll of Iraqis (pdf download here: http://www.ericumansky.com/2005/12/time_poll_iraqi.html) you will not ethat Iraqis everywhere (except Anbar) are optimistic and see their lives improving and have hope for their futures. If all you do is listen to people who get shot at and who deal-out harsh response then you will hear about what they know. Are things going as swimmingly as DoD says? Heck no. Are things as bad as what front-line troops in the worst areas say? Heck no. But try for some fair and balanced analysis. Bot |
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You will also note that the poll was taken last year. Some water has passed under that bridge in the meantime. Civil warriors may offer differing viewpoints right about now.
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There is no doubt that things were bad under Saddam. If you weren't on his "team" life for you could really suck.
On the other hand, life in Iraq now seems significantly worse - and without signs of getting better. It is common knowledge that we have not helped to "improve" a nation we were at war with since Japan. Think about it. Also, why do people forget how Saddam came into power? WE put him there. Anyway. I don't see it as a good sign of things when the ground troops don't even know the real reason they are there... I think a lot of folks don't understand my position on the war. I have NOTHING against the folks that are there doing what amounts to their job. Most of these folks signed up for a free ride (The Armed Forces) and the lost the bet. The problem is that they didn't lose the bet for a real reason -- And the people that made it happen can't admit they made a mistake -- The good part is this poll proves it. It proves that the war was a joke and a sad waste of life and resources. God Bless Them All. |
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