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Old 03-14-2006, 02:05 PM
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DANGEROUS W210 FLAW - please read

My spring perch failed. This is a documented problem on the W210 cars; NHTSA has four cases they are investigating. There is another thread in tech section for more info, but if you have a W210 PLEASE check your perches because you could be KILLED if they give way on the road!! It is a pain but I implore you to get it checked!! The wheel and spring COLLAPSE and cause one side of the fromt to LOCK UP; you can imagine the loss of control!! DO NOT PUT IT OFF you may save the lives of your family or other innocent drivers. I cannot believe that MB is not RECALLING these cars! Sure it's costly but so is a wrongful death suit - could be hundreds of millions if the car hits a schoolbus for instance! They will have to recall these cars at some point but in the meantime people will DIE!

I cannot overstate the importance of getting YOUR car checked!! PLEASE!!

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Old 03-14-2006, 08:33 PM
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Or just have a look yourself, they're easy to see
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:11 AM
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I thought they had already issued a recall. Maybe it was a service bulletin. Either way, MB has know about the issue for many years.
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:26 PM
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Read this thread for more info:
W210 Diesel owners: Spring Perch Failure - Please read

I'm totally fed up with the attitude of Mercedes and the NHTSA. Both are waiting until people start getting killed before taking any action. This is so stupid.
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Old 03-16-2006, 03:33 PM
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I recently took my car in complaining about some wandering in the suspension. I thought I had a broken spring, but they said they found nothing, they gave me an alignment and centred the steering wheel. The head of the service dept mentioned this problem to me and took a look under each wheel (while the car was in the parking lot, not raised up in the bay). Should I assume they were satisfied I have no problem, or should I push it? Do you get warning signs before it fails that you might notice or does something just snap?
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:58 PM
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There's no warning and it will just snap. However if it's about to snap some rust or at least cracked undercoating should be visible but there are no guarantees. The best way is to peel off some of the undercoating to have a better look, but you have to be prepared to patch it back up so water doesn't get in.
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Old 04-10-2006, 10:30 AM
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It is easy for corrosion to develop at the joint where the perch is welded on to the frame without being visible. It seems that corrosion can develop underneath the rubber coating and make it diffucult to discover unless the area is carefully inspected. I have seen one fail firsthand, it is a big problem and can easily kill someone.
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Old 04-10-2006, 10:47 PM
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I work in a Mbz dealer bodyshop and while we see a smattering of W124's the majority of the cars affected are 1996-early 98 E-class(210) sedans. The spring perch kit used to be a welded on perch, now there is a whole perch and plate that is attached to the inner apron with rivets and epoxy structural adhesive. It's a quick and easy fix, all things considered. The ones we have seen tend to only rust on one side, and I really don't think it's all that widespread, statistically, although if it's your car, one is too many. The dealership where I work actively inspects for this when cars are in for other repairs and is very good about getting it fixed.
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Im so glad I didnt buy that W210 I was looking at when searching for my next car
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Old 04-11-2006, 08:17 PM
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I don't have a clue about part #s...I have multiple parts guru's in my building who deal with that sort of thing. The issue I had with just welding the perch onto the existing apron vs. the new kit with the apron section, is that the new part is fool-proof to locate properly and has a much larger surface area where it is tied to the existing structure. We work on new 5-Series BMW's with the aluminum riveted-on front structure and have seen how strong these special rivets and structural adhesives are. In my experience the cars with rusty perches are few and far between, although I suspect that varies regionally...farther north, more prone to rust. Additionally, the cars we have seen with bad perches are visibly rusty, with the wheel off.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:10 AM
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Im so glad I didnt buy that W210 I was looking at when searching for my next car
I have heard about W202 spring perch failures as well.

Much much more on W210...yes.
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Old 04-14-2006, 02:36 AM
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Did the problem apply to all W210 model years, or MB fixed it along the way?
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Old 06-15-2006, 04:46 PM
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Just thought I'd let you know, I checked my perches the other day and they're in perfect condition. No sign of rust anywhere, and the mastic was incredibly difficult to remove.

Thats a 1997 W210 with almost 170k on the clock, in a country renowned for its rainy climate.

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Old 06-15-2006, 05:06 PM
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Question. If we know there is such a problem, can we do something to fix it instead of sitting around waiting to see if MBUSA will fix it first or we get killed first? I heard it just snaps off. Well that is possible seeing as how it is only spot welded on. Can we scrape off the covering and then weld a bead in ourselves?
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Question. If we know there is such a problem, can we do something to fix it instead of sitting around waiting to see if MBUSA will fix it first or we get killed first? I heard it just snaps off. Well that is possible seeing as how it is only spot welded on. Can we scrape off the covering and then weld a bead in ourselves?
If you do it wrong, you'll strengthen the weld but weaken the metal that it connects to, making things worse than they were.

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