I am an American...I chose to live here and I chose to have my family here...you, on the other hand were born here due to a biological accident....

I am not a self-loathing American, however.

Didn't your mom ever teach you that children ought to be seen but not heard...

Be a good boy....

I am a good boy. ;) My mommy taught me to speak out against the un-just and defend the people that can't defend themselves. Your mommy clearly taught you that it is ok to murder and hurt others because you are the chosen ones or support the chosen ones. Biological accident? Please a piece of trash like you... now that's a funny one.

I'm a "strict supporter of Israel"?

Obviously you need to brush up on your reading skills and/or memory retention skills a bit.

I support them FAR less than you apparently support the various terrorist organizations that are out to destroy them.

Israel has a looooooong laundry list of bone-headed behavior to answer for, and I have said as much many, many times on this forum.

However... since Hezbollah started kidnapping and killing soldiers and lobbing rockets at Israeli neighborhoods without any provocation, while aided by the hospitality and the tacit, if not actual, approval of their current "hosts" (Lebanon)... I find it difficult to feel much sympathy for those who are on the receiving end of Israel's quite understandable and quite justified response.

In my opinion, they are ALL morons (Israel INCLUDED) who will not stop killing each other and destroying everything they have ever built (which admittedly is not much in most cases)..... So I don't feel much sorrow for ANY of them, really... and will not ever, until they get smart and learn to get along, and to use their resources for something other than attempting to exterminate one another.

However, YOU continually seem to be in support of those who are the MOST violent and mindless.... and you repeatedly provide evidence that you have some kind of PERSONAL vendetta against Israel, and against anyone who has anything good or supportive to say about them. Every time someone backs you into a corner on the subject, you start spouting mindless, thinly disguised anti-Semitic drivel.

Provide either some evidence to the contrary, or stop verbally assaulting everyone who is merely "calling a duck a duck".

Mike

I stand corrected... my mistake. :)

So you are saying that the people that blew up the 30+ babies (The IDF) were extremists (????????????????) Or the IDF's planes when they did the USS Liberty? OR the Out Post?

Which one? Huh? Come on now.

What happened to Goldstein afterword?

Mike,

What good can there be said about Israel? I am open and receptive to the "good" in them. Please educate me on this. I would like to know. And I'm being serious. I can't think of a single good thing they have done for the United States OR the Middle East.

But if you can, I would like to be able to buttress the bad with some good, so fire away...

Pete

I don't think they went and bulldozed his house.

Wikipedia

Cave of the Patriarchs massacre

Main article: Cave of the Patriarchs massacre

On February 25, 1994, that year's Purim day, Goldstein entered a room in the Cave of the Patriarchs serving as a mosque, wearing "his army uniform with the insignia of rank, creating the image of a reserve officer on active duty" (Shamgar report). He then opened fire at Muslims, killing 29 and wounding 125. Mosque guard Mohammad Suleiman Abu Saleh said he thought that Goldstein was trying to kill as many people as possible and described how there were bodies and blood everywhere. After being subdued with a fire extinguisher, Goldstein was beaten to death by Muslim worshippers, notably after his rifle had been taken from him. [2] Because of this, his official death certificate issued by the Israeli Ministry of the Interior lists the cause of his death as "murder". [3]

Rioting immediately followed the shooting, leading in the following week to the deaths of another 25 Palestinians, four Jewish settlers (one shot by Israeli forces), and one Israeli in Tel Aviv. [4]

Although the Israeli authorities know (via an Arab collaborator who was present that morning) the names of the Arabs who killed Goldstein, they were never brought to trial. [5]
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Response
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Israel

Goldstein's actions were immediately condemned by the Israeli government, the mainstream Israeli parties and the Israeli populace in general. Spokespeople for all the organized denominations of Judaism denounced his act as immoral and as terrorism. The Kach movement, to which he belonged, was outlawed. The victims of the shooting received financial compensation.

In an address to the Knesset, Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin denounced the US-born Goldstein as a "foreign implant" and an "errant weed." He continued, "We say to this horrible man and those like him: you are a shame on Zionism and an embarrassment to Judaism." Binyamin Netanyahu, head of the Likud party declared, "This was a despicable crime. I express my unequivocal condemnation."

A poll of 500 Israeli adults for the International Centre for Peace in the Middle East found that 78.8 percent of people condemned the Hebron massacre while 3.6 percent praised Goldstein.
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Jewish diaspora

In Britain the Chief Rabbi Dr. Jonathan Sacks stated "Such an act is an obscenity and a travesty of Jewish values. That it should have been perpetrated against worshippers in a house of prayer at a holy time makes it a blasphemy as well." He continued, "Violence is evil. Violence committed in the name of God is doubly evil. Violence against those engaged in worshipping God is unspeakably evil." [6]

An editorial in The Jewish Chronicle written by Chaim Bermant denounced the Kach organisation to which Goldstein belonged as "Neo-Nazis" and an U.S. creation, funded by American money and a product of American gun culture.[7] The same edition also reported that some liberal synagogues in the UK had begun fund-raising for Goldstein's victims.

On the other hand, there were also articles and letters in the U.S. Jewish press stating that Baruch Goldstein "pre-emptively struck, thus saving many Jewish lives." [8]
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Arab protests

Numerous demonstrations, some violent, occurred across countries in the Middle-East and world. At one such protest in Amman, Jordan, 77-year-old British tourist Howard Long was stabbed by Palestinian protestors. The attacker, Khalid Husni Al-Korashi, was subsequently arrested and the Jordanian Interior Ministry called for its citizens to show calm and restraint in their response.[9]
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Hamas

On March 7, Hamas threatened suicide attacks against Jewish settlers unless the settlements of Ariel, Kedumim, Qiryat Arba, Tekoa and Gush Katif were evacuated. Bus bombings were carried out on April 6 in Afula, and on April 13 in Hadera. [4]
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New York

On March 1, 1994, Lebanese born Rashid Baz, armed with a Glock 9-millimeter semi-automatic pistol and a 9-millimeter Cobray machine gun, shot at a van full of Hasidic Jewish rabbinical seminary students on the Brooklyn Bridge.[9] Four students were injured in the attack, two seriously with gunshot wounds to the head. Ari Halberstam, a sixteen year old, died of his wounds four days later. While under arrest, Baz confessed to the shootings and was subsequently convicted of second-degree murder. He was sentenced to 141 years in prison. Although he stated the motive for the shooting was "road rage," a later report by Federal authorities described the shootings as "the crimes of a terrorist." Shortly before the attack, Baz attended the Islamic Center of Bay Ridge, whose imam frequently incited anti-Semitism and called for the support of groups such as Hamas. At Baz' trial, it was revealed that the imam told those in attendance, "This [attack] takes the mask off the Jews. It shows them to be racist and fascist and as bad as the Nazis. Palestinians are suffering from the occupation, and it’s time to end it." [10]
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Supporters

Goldstein is not known to have given any reasons for his actions. However, immediately after the attack, Mike Guzofsky, spokesman for Kahane Chai in New York and a close friend of Goldstein said, "He wanted to stop the peace process dead. He couldn't have picked a better day – Purim, when Jews fight back." [11]

At Goldstein's eulogy Rabbi Dov Lior of Kiryat Arba, another of his close friends in the Kach group, stated, "Goldstein could not continue to bear the humiliations and shame nowadays inflicted upon us; this was why he took action for no other reason than to sanctify the holy name of God." [12]

So, you mommy taught you about injustice, huh?

Were you then taking a nappy-poo when you rmommy told you that it was wrong to blow up innocent children? Or kill innocent athletes? Or behead innocent businessmen? Or hijack planes and blow them up? Or hijack planes and fly them into buildings full of innocent civilians? Or slash the throats of innocent flight attendant? Or hide like cowards behind the burkas of innocent women when you lob your rockets?

Didn't your mommy teach you all of that? Or were you absent the day she imparted those lessons on you?

You are a Jew-hating, self-loathing American. And, you are an intellectual coward to boot. You will not admit to your hatred and instead make statements such as "some of my best friends are Jews."

Sorry about the biological accident remark. That was too kind.

I am an American. I am not a Jew, but if I was one, I would be proud of it. And I do admit to feeling a strong kinship withe the people of a small country who refuse to be beaten down by their larger neighbors.--and kick ass in the process. I admire cojones!!!

Why won't you admit to your ethnic origins? Oh, never mind, that would then explain your hatred of Jews.

I am an Amiecan. I am not a jew, but if I was one, I would be proud of it.

I would still not support Israel in their actions.

And did Israel bulldoze his house, kill his mother and small children while still in the house?

I doubt it. I think they do that only with folks from outside of Israel's borders or who are not Israeli citizens. Not sure of that. In an analogous process, in the USA if a parent in subsidized housing shelters a family member who deals dope they kick the whole family out.

Now how many times have suicide bombers been deplored by the various Arab groups? Do Arab groups subsidize the bombings? Does Israel subsidize murdering Arabs? let's talk.

B

And what, pray tell me, do arabs-palestinians-muslims-terrorists do to, or with, their own kind?

They praise them...

Give them money...

Hold them to the highest priase...

Big time difference.

But you, in yor hatred for Jews and Israel would never admit to the difference.

Anyone who seriously believes that Israel has done nothing worthy of praise...

While at the same time you praise the terrorist pigs and thugs who murder in the name of allah, is beyond help.

Go burn in hell with your 72 virgins...

Israelis have made countless contributions to the world in the fields of medicine, gene therapy, agriculture, irrigation and water conservation, computer technology and manufacture, military technology and strategy....

To claim that they as a people have made no valuable contributions is really quite ignorant and naive.

Perhaps you should at least devote a few minutes of Googling or Yahoo!-ing to the people you so readily condemn.

Mike