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Old 09-13-2006, 11:41 PM
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Sept. 11, 2006 | 8:32 p.m. ET
This hole in the ground

Half a lifetime ago, I worked in this now-empty space. And for 40 days after the attacks, I worked here again, trying to make sense of what happened, and was yet to happen, as a reporter.

All the time, I knew that the very air I breathed contained the remains of thousands of people, including four of my friends, two in the planes and -- as I discovered from those "missing posters" seared still into my soul -- two more in the Towers.

And I knew too, that this was the pyre for hundreds of New York policemen and firemen, of whom my family can claim half a dozen or more, as our ancestors.

I belabor this to emphasize that, for me this was, and is, and always shall be, personal.

And anyone who claims that I and others like me are "soft,"or have "forgotten" the lessons of what happened here is at best a grasping, opportunistic, dilettante and at worst, an idiot whether he is a commentator, or a Vice President, or a President.

However, of all the things those of us who were here five years ago could have forecast -- of all the nightmares that unfolded before our eyes, and the others that unfolded only in our minds -- none of us could have predicted this.

Five years later this space is still empty.

Five years later there is no memorial to the dead.

Five years later there is no building rising to show with proud defiance that we would not have our America wrung from us, by cowards and criminals.

Five years later this country's wound is still open.

Five years later this country's mass grave is still unmarked.

Five years later this is still just a background for a photo-op.

It is beyond shameful.

At the dedication of the Gettysburg Memorial -- barely four months after the last soldier staggered from another Pennsylvania field -- Mr. Lincoln said, "we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract."

Lincoln used those words to immortalize their sacrifice.

Today our leaders could use those same words to rationalize their reprehensible inaction. "We cannot dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground." So we won't.

Instead they bicker and buck pass. They thwart private efforts, and jostle to claim credit for initiatives that go nowhere. They spend the money on irrelevant wars, and elaborate self-congratulations, and buying off columnists to write how good a job they're doing instead of doing any job at all.

Five years later, Mr. Bush, we are still fighting the terrorists on these streets. And look carefully, sir, on these 16 empty acres. The terrorists are clearly, still winning.

And, in a crime against every victim here and every patriotic sentiment you mouthed but did not enact, you have done nothing about it.

And there is something worse still than this vast gaping hole in this city, and in the fabric of our nation. There is its symbolism of the promise unfulfilled, the urgent oath, reduced to lazy execution.

The only positive on 9/11 and the days and weeks that so slowly and painfully followed it was the unanimous humanity, here, and throughout the country. The government, the President in particular, was given every possible measure of support.

Those who did not belong to his party -- tabled that.

Those who doubted the mechanics of his election -- ignored that.

Those who wondered of his qualifications -- forgot that.

History teaches us that nearly unanimous support of a government cannot be taken away from that government by its critics. It can only be squandered by those who use it not to heal a nation's wounds, but to take political advantage.

Terrorists did not come and steal our newly-regained sense of being American first, and political, fiftieth. Nor did the Democrats. Nor did the media. Nor did the people.

The President -- and those around him -- did that.

They promised bi-partisanship, and then showed that to them, "bi-partisanship" meant that their party would rule and the rest would have to follow, or be branded, with ever-escalating hysteria, as morally or intellectually confused, as appeasers, as those who, in the Vice President's words yesterday, "validate the strategy of the terrorists."

They promised protection, and then showed that to them "protection" meant going to war against a despot whose hand they had once shaken, a despot who we now learn from our own Senate Intelligence Committee, hated al-Qaida as much as we did.

The polite phrase for how so many of us were duped into supporting a war, on the false premise that it had 'something to do' with 9/11 is "lying by implication."

The impolite phrase is "impeachable offense."

Not once in now five years has this President ever offered to assume responsibility for the failures that led to this empty space, and to this, the current, curdled, version of our beloved country.

Still, there is a last snapping flame from a final candle of respect and fairness: even his most virulent critics have never suggested he alone bears the full brunt of the blame for 9/11.

Half the time, in fact, this President has been so gently treated, that he has seemed not even to be the man most responsible for anything in his own administration.

Yet what is happening this very night?

A mini-series, created, influenced -- possibly financed by -- the most radical and cold of domestic political Machiavellis, continues to be televised into our homes.

The documented truths of the last fifteen years are replaced by bald-faced lies; the talking points of the current regime parroted; the whole sorry story blurred, by spin, to make the party out of office seem vacillating and impotent, and the party in office, seem like the only option.

How dare you, Mr. President, after taking cynical advantage of the unanimity and love, and transmuting it into fraudulent war and needless death, after monstrously transforming it into fear and suspicion and turning that fear into the campaign slogan of three elections? How dare you -- or those around you -- ever "spin" 9/11?

Just as the terrorists have succeeded -- are still succeeding -- as long as there is no memorial and no construction here at Ground Zero.

So, too, have they succeeded, and are still succeeding as long as this government uses 9/11 as a wedge to pit Americans against Americans.

This is an odd point to cite a television program, especially one from March of 1960. But as Disney's continuing sell-out of the truth (and this country) suggests, even television programs can be powerful things.

And long ago, a series called "The Twilight Zone" broadcast a riveting episode entitled "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street."

In brief: a meteor sparks rumors of an invasion by extra-terrestrials disguised as humans. The electricity goes out. A neighbor pleads for calm. Suddenly his car -- and only his car -- starts. Someone suggests he must be the alien. Then another man's lights go on. As charges and suspicion and panic overtake the street, guns are inevitably produced. An "alien" is shot -- but he turns out to be just another neighbor, returning from going for help. The camera pulls back to a near-by hill, where two extra-terrestrials are seen manipulating a small device that can jam electricity. The veteran tells his novice that there's no need to actually attack, that you just turn off a few of the human machines and then, "they pick the most dangerous enemy they can find, and it's themselves."

And then, in perhaps his finest piece of writing, Rod Serling sums it up with words of remarkable prescience, given where we find ourselves tonight: "The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men.

"For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all its own -- for the children, and the children yet unborn."

When those who dissent are told time and time again -- as we will be, if not tonight by the President, then tomorrow by his portable public chorus -- that he is preserving our freedom, but that if we use any of it, we are somehow un-American...When we are scolded, that if we merely question, we have "forgotten the lessons of 9/11"... look into this empty space behind me and the bi-partisanship upon which this administration also did not build, and tell me:

Who has left this hole in the ground?

We have not forgotten, Mr. President.

You have.

May this country forgive you.

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Old 09-14-2006, 12:36 AM
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Thanks for posting this: we need to be reminded that K. Olberman is an overly dramatic, hypocritical, headline mongering publicity whore who makes his living off of cliche talking points.
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Old 09-14-2006, 02:17 AM
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Whoa, man. Do you watch his show that much? He does get a bit overly dramatic but compared to some of the thick headed, talking points parroters, the guy's a breath of fresh air. Tells it like it is more than most.

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Old 09-14-2006, 09:11 AM
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Thanks for posting this: we need to be reminded that K. Olberman is an overly dramatic, hypocritical, headline mongering publicity whore who makes his living off of cliche talking points.
Yup. Monday Morning QB'ing at its finest, as well.
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Old 09-14-2006, 09:15 AM
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Who is that guy? He reads like a boo-hoo version of Rush Limbaugh. Weepy bombast. What a combination.

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Whoa, man. Do you watch his show that much? :
Why would I was something alot that I don't like?

I DID think it was funny as hell when he excoriated Bill O'Reilley for getting his WWII history completely wrong when O'Reilley accused US Soldiers in Germany of massacaring SS troops when it was th eother way around. Then he exposed this and Bill wouldn't give quarter on his mistake, so he tried to change the transcripst to say he was referring to MaiLai in Nam instead and Olberman busted him on that. See, that was positive
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Olberman is inconsistent. Sometimes he'll hit some right-winger right between the eyes on some issue and it's a thing of beauty. That particular 9/11 piece is a bit sappy for my taste.

His show is worth checking on from time to time just for his pieces on Bill O'Reilly. Olberman does a great job of exploiting the incredibily rich supply of comedic material spewed by O'Reilly.
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Olberman is inconsistent. Sometimes he'll hit some right-winger right between the eyes on some issue and it's a thing of beauty. That particular 9/11 piece is a bit sappy for my taste.

His show is worth checking on from time to time just for his pieces on Bill O'Reilly. Olberman does a great job of exploiting the incredibily rich supply of comedic material spewed by O'Reilly.
Ditto. I got juiced up on him when he nailed Bill on the WWII thing, then enthusiastically watched three consecutive pieces after that and came away thinking he is a woman dressed like a man. Sometimes he gets so worked up, it seems as if he may burst into tears
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Old 09-14-2006, 11:56 AM
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I like the guy all in all but I have to agree with the two previous posts. He DOES take himself a bit seriously. Still, I don't bleave there's anyone else doing material quite like that on the telly.
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Its getting so warm and fuzzy in here. Why can't we all just get along ?
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...Still, I don't bleave there's anyone else doing material quite like that on the telly.
Nobody on TV is having sex with panda bears, either.
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Nobody on TV is having sex with panda bears, either.
You don't watch Berkley Public Access, do you?
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Thanks for posting this: we need to be reminded that K. Olberman is an overly dramatic, hypocritical, headline mongering publicity whore who makes his living off of cliche talking points.
You forgot "self centered". Can anybody say EGO
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Nobody on TV is having sex with panda bears, either.
Almost, not quite...

South Park's episode Sexual Harrasment Panda

notable appearance of the "Johnny Cochran defense".
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You forgot "self centered". Can anybody say EGO
Olberman is HARDLY the only host in the media guilty of this. If he wasn't, he would be the only exception to the rule.

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