What rights have YOU lost? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

GottaDiesel · #1 09-22-2006, 09:53 AM

Often you don't know what rights you've lost until you need them -- or test them.

I pretty much think the NSA could do what it wanted long before Bush. Is that a good thing? Probably, I don't have anything to hide.

What rights have *I* personally lost? Well, for one, I've lost the right to feel safe when I fly. Because we've managed to piss off so many people and airplanes are a great target. The policy of the current administration has caused us to be hated more now than pre 9-11. So that is one right I've lost.

Although I've never been searched at the airport I have been with people who were. And if you want to talk about feeling violated (loss of rights) -- that takes the cake. Do you realize they can just pull you out of the line, and search you from head to toe. For no reason -- just because? Innoncent until guilty -- ?.

Some people have been more impacted than others. I would imagine that a United States citizen that is Muslim in appearance, etc. Has lost a lot more. Just look at all the threads on here lately bashing them. It is really sad.

Does it effect me directly? Sure. Because if today we can do it toward Muslim looking people, next will be Italian people, or blacks, or so on...

I don't know about you, but I don't want to live like that. We're all created equal -- and we should be treated as such. If you think we are... think again.

dannym · #2 09-22-2006, 10:19 AM

Have you ever read this before?

Quote:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

-Our jobs are moving overseas at an incredible rate
-Health Insurance has skyrocketed and nonexistent for many
-Social Security has been run into the ground by irresponsible bureaucrats
-The national debt is eight trillion+ dollars thanks again to irresponsible Govt.
-Employers are offering less and less benefits
-Education is a joke

How does all this guarantee me what is written in the above quote?

Those are the freedoms that I personally have lost.

Danny

BENZ-LGB · #3 09-22-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel

...What rights have *I* personally lost? Well, for one, I've lost the right to feel safe when I fly. Because we've managed to piss off so many people and airplanes are a great target. The policy of the current administration has caused us to be hated more now than pre 9-11. So that is one right I've lost.

Although I've never been searched at the airport I have been with people who were. And if you want to talk about feeling violated (loss of rights) -- that takes the cake. Do you realize they can just pull you out of the line, and search you from head to toe. For no reason -- just because? Innoncent until guilty -- ?.

Some people have been more impacted than others. I would imagine that a United States citizen that is Muslim in appearance, etc. Has lost a lot more. Just look at all the threads on here lately bashing them. It is really sad.

Does it effect me directly? Sure. Because if today we can do it toward Muslim looking people, next will be Italian people, or blacks, or so on...

I don't know about you, but I don't want to live like that. We're all created equal -- and we should be treated as such. If you think we are... think again.

Everytime I walk into the local courthouse I have to go through a security screening. If the scanner beeps, then I get wanded.

Nine times out of ten the scanner beeps, so I have to get wanded...sometimes I am standing right next tothe people that i will be prosecuting and we are both getting wanded.

Do I mind? Not really, it is a minor inconvenience and it is mildly aggravating to be standing next to the people that I am prosecuting--both of us getting wanded. But I put up with it for the greater good of avoiding an "incident" in a crowded courthouse.

Planes carrying passengers were long a target before anything that bush ever did. Have you forgotten all the hijackings and planes getting blown up in the air (Scotland) and on the tarmac (numerous incidents).

I too hate the fact that I can't walk right up into the terminal and see my kids board a plane when they go in a flight and hug them before they go off. But that is the price we have to pay for living in a world where evil people want to kill and maim innocent people just to advance their ideology.

GD, we are the victims here. Do not condemn our government (regardless of whether it is Dems or Reps in power). Place the blame exactly where it belongs...on the evil idealogues who are engaged in a crusade to destroy you and me.

GD, it would be nice to live ina color-blind world. Maybe someday we will. but for now, it is not little old blue-haired Protestant ladies who are blowing up planes. It is people of ME descent who are committing those crimes. I want the TSA to profile ALL of them, even if it means that occassionally I or one of my kids would be taken aside for an extra search.

I am willing to pay that price until we get rid of all the Islamistas and any other fanatic hellbent in killing me because I carry an American passport.