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super SEC · #1 12-17-2006, 02:12 AM

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The low-end torque on Bentlys is hard to describe,, like getting a push start from God.

Too bad it's almost anemic compared to the twin-turbo V12 Mercedes engines. I too will be sending my ECU & TCU to Renntech very soon. Instead of close to 600 lb-ft of torque, I'll have over 740 lb-ft of torque with stage 1 ECU.

Matt SD300 · #2 12-17-2006, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by super SEC

Too bad it's almost anemic compared to the twin-turbo V12 Mercedes engines. I too will be sending my ECU & TCU to Renntech very soon. Instead of close to 600 lb-ft of torque, I'll have over 740 lb-ft of torque with stage 1 ECU.

Oh yeah,,,my Dodge Ram with Cummins power has over 800ft-lbs @1600rpm & smells like food...

LOL

t walgamuth · #3 12-17-2006, 05:06 PM

i'd like to see a 50 to 75 mph rolling acceleration test between them.

that cummins is amazing when spooled up from 2500 to 3200 rpm.

tom w

diametricalbenz · #4 12-17-2006, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackE55

The gods of aerodynamics are on our side.

I too would be interested to see how the N/A V-12 does against the Cummins engine even with a much higher Cd.

740hp 5.9L

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKMo90aMOlU

Hatterasguy · #5 12-17-2006, 08:11 PM

In the 1/4 the truck may almost do it. But these cars are not ment for the 1/4. In an open road race not a chance the S600 would walk away. I can't imagin that truck passing the 150 mark, a speed the MB just glides by.

Hatterasguy · #6 12-17-2006, 08:18 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ueq5fC6_gA&mode=related&search=

Conclusion the GT is a lot faster, and sounds better. Also one of the guys in the S65 is a wuss. Ohh oh slow down 140 no!

Matt SD300 · #7 12-17-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

In the 1/4 the truck may almost do it. But these cars are not ment for the 1/4. In an open road race not a chance the S600 would walk away. I can't imagin that truck passing the 150 mark, a speed the MB just glides by.

In the real world(70 to 100 on the freeway)..that truck will beat a Benz S600 so bad ...the guys whole family would be bruised..

I have rolled with a SL65 600+hp/700+tq from 70 to 100 on the freeway the little Benz pulled me by 2 cars.... Many a Bmw,Porche 911,MB,Corvette.. many have been shocked by my mild Cummins turbo intercooled truck..

t walgamuth · #8 12-18-2006, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackE55

Doubt it, it's a Dodge. You'll have to pull over to pick up all the trim pieces that fell off.

that is why they come pretty devoid of trim.

the trim is cheap but none of mine has fallen off yet.

03 dodge 2500 cummins with six manual
64,000 miles
original front tires: over 50% tread (i mounted the spare and bought a new tire for the rear at about 40k)
original brake pads
routine maintenance only
two warranty jobs: both seeping plugs on the head (like little freeze plugs)
one slow leak on the rf tire repaired by removing tire and reinstalling with some gook on the edge. also had to have some ac oil removed.
14mph around town
20+ on highway running empty at 75-80
50% of the mileage is towing either
9000 # 35' airstream
utility trailer with and without car
other trailers

so i dont think any new mercedes can compare with that really. anybody out there still running the factory front tires and brake pads at 64k miles? how about no (real) warrenty work?

its so good i am tempted to just let my car sit and drive it exclusively. it is just a beast to park though. 140" wheelbase quad cab.

tom w

Hatterasguy · #9 12-18-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

In the real world(70 to 100 on the freeway)..that truck will beat a Benz S600 so bad ...the guys whole family would be bruised..

I have rolled with a SL65 600+hp/700+tq from 70 to 100 on the freeway the little Benz pulled me by 2 cars.... Many a Bmw,Porche 911,MB,Corvette.. many have been shocked by my mild Cummins turbo intercooled truck..

I'm talking about a real world pull on a nice open road. I'd never back off at 100 unless I am running out of room fast.

There is no way an SL65 would lose to a Ram in the 100-170 range. Mercedes are not 1/4 mile cars, its amazing they can post those times since thats the last thing they are built for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCSaHPkQNDU
Notice the 600 doesn't let up as the speed increases.

Whats top speed for a Ram with a Cummins anyway? Low rpm of the Cummins with short gears, 110 maybe?

diametricalbenz · #10 12-17-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

In the 1/4 the truck may almost do it. But these cars are not ment for the 1/4. In an open road race not a chance the S600 would walk away. I can't imagin that truck passing the 150 mark, a speed the MB just glides by.

An 03 S600 doesn't pull a 10.4 second 1/4 mile. According to wikipedia an Enzo will pull a 10.8! Beyond the 125mph the drag will limit the car but then again most races are from the stoplight not at 125mph plus......or are they.

Yes the Cd is much worse.....I think the point is that the Cummins motor is the gem not the platform in which it it resides. The bonus is outrunning or keeping up with cars that cost 10x more can be beat by a truck that burns fuel at $0.55 per gallon.

Matt SD300 · #11 12-18-2006, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by diametricalbenz

An 03 S600 doesn't pull a 10.4 second 1/4 mile. According to wikipedia an Enzo will pull a 10.8! Beyond the 125mph the drag will limit the car but then again most races are from the stoplight not at 125mph plus......or are they.

Yes the Cd is much worse.....I think the point is that the Cummins motor is the gem not the platform in which it it resides. The bonus is outrunning or keeping up with cars that cost 10x more can be beat by a truck that burns fuel at $0.55 per gallon.

Yep....that trucks torque is in the 1400 to 1500ft lbs range....and still capable of getting 20 mpg on the road..

t walgamuth · #12 12-18-2006, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackE55

The gods of aerodynamics are on our side.

true!

mine will top out at about 110. (why would you want more?)

gale banks took a dodge to bonneville though. i think he went 200 didnt he? but with about 2000 hp. pounding out of his cummins.

tom w

Matt SD300 · #13 12-19-2006, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

true!

mine will top out at about 110. (why would you want more?)

gale banks took a dodge to bonneville though. i think he went 200 didnt he? but with about 2000 hp. pounding out of his cummins.

tom w

220mph &..More like 700+hp...no where near max Hp for these engines..

t walgamuth · #14 12-19-2006, 11:04 AM

well, maybe. how much torque?

tom w

Matt SD300 · #15 12-21-2006, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

well, maybe. how much torque?

tom w

1300 Ft lbs