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Old 02-22-2007, 05:17 PM
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The evolving defintion of "gay"

Why does gay mean ‘rubbish’?, asks Rob Lyons

Apparently the term ‘gay’ is now in common usage among young people to mean ‘lame’ or ‘rubbish’. This has caused some controversy, especially among gay rights groups who don’t like the idea that being called ‘gay’ is now seen as something negative. Last year Radio 1 presenter Chris Moyles was the subject of an internal BBC inquiry after he described a ringtone on air as ‘gay’. Leaving aside the question of why there has to be an inquiry every time a broadcaster says something un-PC, it is reasonable to ask: where could young people have got the idea that ‘gay = rubbish’?

How about from another term, very closely associated with gay culture: ‘camp’. ‘Camp’, as Stephen Bayley argued in his scratch-their-eyes-out book on New Labour, Labour Camp, is just a synonym for rubbish. Or, as Susan Sontag observed in Notes on Camp, first published in 1964, ‘The ultimate Camp statement [is] it’s good because it’s awful...’ Sontag noted that Camp culture tends to emphasise ‘texture, sensuous surface, and style at the expense of content’; and that ‘homosexuals, by and large, constitute the vanguard - and the most articulate audience - of Camp’.

It doesn’t take a huge leap of the imagination to re-work ‘camp’ as ‘gay’, especially when so many gay celebrities tend to wallow in kitsch. If you, like many people both straight and gay, think Graham Norton and Will and Grace and Queer Eye for the Straight Guy (now there’s a show that emphasises ‘style at the expense of content’) are pretty dreadful, then surely no one could blame you for associating ‘gay’, at least in its cultural sense, with ‘rubbish’.

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This isn't new, everybody I know has been using the word gay to mean lame since I was in junior high school, which was a long time ago.
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Old 02-22-2007, 05:24 PM
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Don't these people have anything better to do?

Somebody give them a gameboy or whatever the latest contraption is - that will keep them infront of the TV, playing games, and more importantly, keeping them from uttering anything.

Yes, I do realize that me posting this is an additional minute of my (and yours, now) life that I won't get back. - Sorry
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Old 02-22-2007, 05:58 PM
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This isn't new, everybody I know has been using the word gay to mean lame since I was in junior high school, which was a long time ago.
Yup. I'm not gunna lie. My school uses it and has used it since I can remember. No one takes any offense to it.
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Old 02-22-2007, 06:18 PM
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I don't suppose that it really matters anyway. You can't control the way people talk.
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Rubbish? Psh, thats gay.
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:35 PM
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Yeah I'm surprised someone actualy took the time to write that. Gay means that something is dumb, stupid, or lame.

Thats how my friends and I talk when we are tipping back a few beers.
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:40 PM
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:42 PM
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The people who take the time to actualy care about this stuff enough to get "offended" should go to this site:
http://www.youfail.org/
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Old 02-22-2007, 11:43 PM
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What was once old is new again. I remember hearing the phrase back in the early '80s during high school.

This pc garbage is crazy, what's next, dairy farmers becoming offended by the use of the word cheesy?
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Old 02-23-2007, 02:43 AM
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Richard Simmons claims he is not gay. He "doesn't act like a typical man."

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ok 'Lance'.
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ok 'Lance'.
I want to laugh at this and feel like I should, but fill me in man--I don't get it
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Old 02-23-2007, 02:30 PM
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I want to laugh at this and feel like I should, but fill me in man--I don't get it
The double "This is Gay "post was put up by Forced Induction.
"Forced Induction's" signature is "Lance"
So, I guess D4me was pointing this out to us. "Lance" being slang for ....
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Old 02-23-2007, 02:46 PM
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Looks like this thread is headed for a swordfight.

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