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Old 06-11-2007, 09:40 PM
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I appreciate your hospitality, just for the record: I am a Pacifist by
conviction.

PACIFIST!!!!......Ah.....Dude....you have lost my respect.....


America is FREE because of the MEN and the WOMEN willing to lay their lives down for this GREAT COUNTRY!!!....

Where I come from... folks like you are called another P word....

Are you a US Citizen??

That said ...the offer for dinner is still good........

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Old 06-11-2007, 09:49 PM
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... But I maintain that the vast, vast majority of Americans don't begin to have a clue about the roots of what went down in Nicaragua.
Classic. Everybody else is clueless but you.

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Old 06-11-2007, 10:03 PM
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Considering that 92% of the American public thinks blood is blue -- I would say that expecting them to have a firm understanding of complex geopolitical matters is probably a far reach!
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:10 PM
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Considering that 92% of the American public thinks blood is blue -- I would say that expecting them to have a firm understanding of complex geopolitical matters is probably a far reach!
I obviously do not speak for anybody but myself on this or any other issue, but as for me, I never assume that a person with an opinion different from my own is ignorant. Instead, prefer to allow them to demonstrate their mastery without assumptions on my part.

With patience and careful analysis, the truth will out.

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Old 06-11-2007, 10:31 PM
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PACIFIST!!!!......Ah.....Dude....you have lost my respect.....


America is FREE because of the MEN and the WOMEN willing to lay their lives down for this GREAT COUNTRY!!!....

Where I come from... folks like you are called another P word....

Are you a US Citizen??

That said ...the offer for dinner is still good........
I used to use a pacifier too.

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I used to use a pacifier too.

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Old 06-11-2007, 10:59 PM
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I obviously do not speak for anybody but myself on this or any other issue, but as for me, I never assume that a person with an opinion different from my own is ignorant. Instead, prefer to allow them to demonstrate their mastery without assumptions on my part.

With patience and careful analysis, the truth will out.

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Old 06-12-2007, 01:43 PM
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I obviously do not speak for anybody but myself on this or any other issue, but as for me, I never assume that a person with an opinion different from my own is ignorant. Instead, prefer to allow them to demonstrate their mastery without assumptions on my part.

With patience and careful analysis, the truth will out.

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Old 06-12-2007, 10:48 PM
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Classic. Everybody else is clueless but you.
Methinks you protest too much. You yourself stated that the Sandinistas assasinated the last Somoza and took power. Everything I've found on the subject indicates that he saw the handwriting on the wall, stepped down, fled to Miami where he was not allowed entry, and went to Paraguay where he was killed.

A small error but it does hint at a casual perusal of the history of the situation.

Oh well, sue me, I have researched the topic and tried to arrive at some understanding. Perhaps the most interesting document I found was an article in The Nation, circa 1961 entitled "Nicaragua: Another Cuba?" You've read that one? As soon as I can figure out a way to get a file sharing service going that'll allow me to share adobe docs, I'll have an URL for it. It's not available with the usual sort of web link.

Some absolutely mind blowing info in that piece that was certainly not shared with the US public under Reagan. The tone and tenor of it, along with much of the information, checks out with other sources. Some of the best parts I can't confirm anywhere else, likely because that info did not appear anywhere else.

The author spent years as a journalist in Nicaragua and was present at various meetings between the Somozas and US diplomats.
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Old 06-12-2007, 10:51 PM
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Anybody else heard or read the story about how Thompson's li'l red pickup he used as a prop during his Senate race(s) was just that: a prop that he drove only for photo ops? While stories were circulated that the drove the state in it?

Hay - ell, Billy Bob, ol' Fred -- whah he's jes a good ol' boy. (spits Copenhagen)
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:00 AM
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PACIFIST!!!!......Ah.....Dude....you have lost my respect.....


America is FREE because of the MEN and the WOMEN willing to lay their lives down for this GREAT COUNTRY!!!....
I didn't notice the respect part.
But I do notice the similarity in your statement and the Nazi's attitude during the 3. Reich.
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:21 AM
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I didn't notice the respect part.
But I do notice the similarity in your statement and the Nazi's attitude during the 3. Reich.
HUH??????????::


Please read my signature.....the bottom line.........How fitting...(LaGuido).........WOW!..

You dont like Steak & King Crab???...........Dude ...your missing out......Pride... is a ugly thing...........The offer is still open..
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Old 06-14-2007, 01:18 AM
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HUH??????????::


Please read my signature.....the bottom line.........How fitting...(LaGuido).........WOW!..

You dont like Steak & King Crab???...........Dude ...your missing out......Pride... is a ugly thing...........The offer is still open..
Let me summarize this dialog.

I know your sig-line and I have the 'feeling' you're not the inventor of it. Nevertheless, it doesn't matter, since the majority of the earth's population is mostly unfamiliar with either one of it, 'think vs. feel' is a rather irrelevant subject, much less does it matter, whose retarded cousin 'liberalism' represents. Just another hotchpotch phrase.

My personal take: A human being needs to capacitate both, thinking and feeling. One cannot replace or exclude the other.
Here is an old Italian saying: "Think with your head and f*** with your d!*k. Not the other other way around"

Prior to that it went from 'Jew hating Nazi' to 'liberal with a pride'. Boy, that's quite a stretch.

Someone laying their life down for this "Great and Free Country" ? That's really an individual choice. (Still, the question remains, how great and free is it really, if people have to sacrifice their lives for it?)
Thankfully, there are plenty of choices, besides the 'getting killed, served your country well' option.

What makes you think, I wouldn't or didn't already lay my life down? The fact that I'm not dead yet, wouldn't let me receive that honour?

Pacifist!? Ofcourse, I am! It also is a wise decision to keep me there! If that makes any sense to you.

Am I US Citizen?
It isn't really anyone's business around here, but let me ask you this:
Did you think I'm Martian?

Last not least. Thank you truly for your invitation, I hold this up in your favor, but I don't think we're ready for such an encounter. Maybe some day in the future. I thank you again for your hospitality. That's a rare find.
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Old 06-14-2007, 05:26 AM
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it was hard not to like the always affable reagan.

i found him to be an extremely cynical pol though.

i remember reading that an aid told him after a speech once that the statistics he quoted were wrong. he just said he liked them and was going to keep using them.

tom w
Ronald Reagan used to be governor of California, before being president and boy, he sure had some pretty unforgettable quotes,

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"If you've seen one [tree], you've seen them all"

"A tree's a tree. How many more do you need to look at?"
( Opposing expansion of the redwood Natgional Park, 1966)

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"Facts are Stupid Things" (1988) misquote of John Adams, "Facts are Stubborn Things"

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On People's Park, UC Berkeley (1969)

"Drive criminal anarchists and latter day fascists off the campuses"

"If there's going to be a bloodbath, then let's get it over with"

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Commenting on the SLA's ransom demand of free food for the poor:

"It's just too bad we can't have an epidemic of botulism"

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To the Lebanese Prime Minister (1982) "You know, your nose looks just like Danny Thomas's"

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"Because the war in Vietnam was not a declared war, the veterans are not even eligible for the G.I. Bill of rights with respect to education or anything" (1980)

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After returning home from his five day trip to Latin America (1982)

"Well, I learned a lot", he tells reporters.

"They're all individual countries"

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"We are not doing anything to try and overthrow the Nicaraguan Government"

(1983)

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On daughter Patti's comments about marijuana usage and premarital cohabitation:

"I'm just sorry that spanking is out of fashion now" (1984)

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"Now we are trying to get unemployment to go up and I think we are going to succeed" (1987)

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"President Reagan greeted the Prince and Princess wearing a plaid jacket that was remarkably similar to the carpet at Balmoral Castle"

BBC correspondent (1985)

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President Reagan denied that he called reporters "sons of *****es".
Though the remark was captured on tape, Presidential mouthpiece Larry Speakes said the actual remark was "It's sunny and you're rich". (1986)

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"Anyone that's ever had their
kitchen redone knows it never gets done as soon as you wish it would"

President Reagan justifying the incomplete security measures at the U.S. embassy annex in Beirut, where an iron gate was found lying on the ground awaiting installation (1984)

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Discussing Soviet Weaponry at a National Security Council meeting

President Reagan: Isn't the SS-19 their biggest missile?"

CIA Deputy Director Bobby Inman: "No, that's the SS-18"

Reagan: "So, they've even switched the numbers on their missiles to confuse us".

(1982)
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"Can we abandon this country white South Africa that has stood behind us in every war?" (1981)

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"I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself" (1980)

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Old 06-14-2007, 05:31 AM
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Here's another:

"Americans don't need vegetables,they've got Ketchup!"

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