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Vronsky · #1 06-17-2007, 09:38 AM

Went to this airshow at a military airbase near where I live, with my 8-year old and a friend yesterday. Awesome show: F16's, F18's , A10's, Awacs, biplanes, formation flying by Turkish Stars (NF5) and Patrouille de France. And then there was this CH-47: unbelievable what they did with this 'flying truck'. Man, if I were young again....

Medmech · #2 06-17-2007, 09:43 AM

Robin Olds, legendary ace and Air Force leader, dies

June 16, 2007

Col. Robin Olds pre-flights his F-4C Phantom in the Vietnam War. (U.S. Air Force photo) Robin Olds' aerial combat victories of record were:

World War II, in the 434th Fighter Squadron, 12 kills (with a 13th credited in some accounts)
• Aug. 14, 1944, two kills
• Aug. 25, 1944, three kills
• Oct. 6, 1944, one kill
• Feb. 9, 1945, one kill
• Feb. 14, 1945, two kills
• March 19, 1945, two kills
• April 7, 1945, one kill

Vietnam War, 433rd and 555th Tactical Fighter Squadrons, four kills
• Jan. 2, 1967, one kill
• May 4, 1967, one kill
• May 20, 1967, two kills; his back-seater was Stephen Croker, later a lieutenant general and once head of the 8th Air Force at Barksdale Air Force Base.

Preparing to add the 19th, 20th and 21st red stars to the 8th Tactical Fighter Wing MiG-kill scoreboard is Col. Robin Olds, wing commander, and the first triple MiG-killer of the Vietnam conflict. Other victors in a May 20 encounter with MiG-17s 40 miles northeast of Hanoi are (left to right) Maj. Philip P. Combies, 1st Lt. Daniel L. Lafferty, Maj. John R. Pardo, 1st Lt. Stephen B. Croker, and 1st Lt. Stephen A. Wayne (front center). Olds later was credited with a fourth MiG to become the only quadruple MiG-killer of the Vietnam conflict. (U.S. Air Force photo) On the Web:
• U.S. Air Force Academy
• U.S. Air Force Web site
• Brig. Gen. Robin Olds' official U.S. Air Force biography
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U.S. AIR FORCE ACADEMY, Colo. -- Robin Olds, one of the legends of the U.S. Air Force, died of congestive heart failure this week at the age of 84.

A retured brigadier general, he died Thursday at his home in Steamboat Springs, Colo., according to a release from the Air Force.

Olds was rated a triple ace for having shot down a confirmed total of 16 enemy aircraft during World War II and the Vietnam War, with another 11 aircraft destroyed on the ground. His assignments ranged from England, Germany and Libya to Thailand and the United States, and his poisitions in command or senior staff went from squadron, base, group and wing commander to and assignments to Headquarters U.S. Air Force and the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

"Triple-ace Robin Olds' legendary leadership and heroic service to the cause of freedom have been an inspiration to our nation and our Air Force," said Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley. "He is one of our 'great captains' and a pioneer of air power.

"He became an ace with 12 aerial victories during World War II, flying P-38 Lightnings and P-51 Mustangs, and later shot down 4 MiGs in Vietnam to bring his total to 16. He also led the 8th Tactical Fighter Wing -- the famed "Wolfpack" -- to a record 24 aerial victories, a total unsurpassed by any other wing during the war in Southeast Asia," Moseley said.

"Throughout his career, he was a staunch advocate for better fighters, better pilot training and new tactics, culminating in the war-winning air-to-air tactics and doctrine of surgical precision bombing we use today."

Olds was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on July 14, 1922, the son of Maj. Gen. Robert and Eloise Olds. He spent his younger years in Hampton, Va., and attended the U.S.Military Academy at West Point, where he was an All-American tackle. He graduated in 1943 as a second lieutenant.

Following graduation from pilot training in 1943, General Olds was assigned to the European Theater at the end of World War II, where he flew 107 combat missions. During the Vietnam War, he flew 152 combat missions in the F-4 Phantom as the wing commander of the 8th Tactical Fighter Wing at Ubon Air Base, Thailand.

Olds' exploits as the creator and mission commander of Operation Bolo, the most successful aerial battle of the Vietnam War, have been documented in the recent History Channel Dogfights Special series "Air Ambush."

Non-combat honors include assignment to the first jet P-80 squadron in 1946, membership in the first jet Aerial Acrobatic Demonstration Team, second-place showing in the Thompson Trophy Race jet division in 1946 and participation in the first dawn-to-dusk transcontinental round trip flight. He was a squadron commander of the British Royal Air Force's 1 Squadron, a fighter unit based in Sussex, U.K., during a 1948 exchange tour.

He achieved almost legendary status in the Vietnam War, developing a flamboyant leadership style, with a full, handlebar mustache and a panache that was an inspiration to younger pilots. Though a wing commander, he led by example, taking combat to the enemy. His F-4C Phantom fighter "Scat XXVII" — all his airplanes' names started with the word "Scat" — is at the Air Force Museum, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio.

Olds' military decorations begin with the Air Force Cross, the service's second-highest award for bravery, second only to the Medal of Honor. He also was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal, Silver Star with three oak leaf clusters, Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Cross with five oak leaf clusters, Air Medal with 39 oak leaf clusters, British Distinguished Flying Cross, French Croix de Guerre, Vietnam Air Force Distinguished Service Order, Vietnam Air Gallantry Medal with gold wings and the Vietnam Air Service Medal.

After his duty in Vietnam, Olds was commandant of cadets at the U.S. Air Force Academy from 1967 to 1971. His last assignment before retiring from the Air Force in 1973 was as director of safety for the Air Force.

Up to a few months prior to his illness he was frequently called upon as guest speaker and lecturer for his inspirational and motivational talks. He was married to Ella Raines, who died in 1988, and then to Morgan Olds.

Olds is survived by two daughters, Christina Olds of Vail, Colo., and Susan Scott-Risner of North Bend, Wash.; one granddaughter, Jennifer Newman of Santa Monica, Calif., and half-brother, Fred Olds of Virginia.

A memorial service will be held at the U.S. Air Force Academy within the next two weeks. The service and his family ask that memorials be made to the Red River Valley Fighter Pilots Association toward scholarships for the children or spouses of armed forces aircrew members killed or missing in action.

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Mistress · #3 06-18-2007, 02:26 PM

just a cessna 172 glass cockpit pilot here....

Vronsky · #4 06-18-2007, 03:36 PM

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just a cessna 172 glass cockpit pilot here....

... done any outside loops and tailslides lately ???

Mistress · #5 06-18-2007, 03:39 PM

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... done any outside loops and tailslides lately ???

no, not yet, i'm just learnding...although i do have to say i like them steep turns.....poweroff stalls next time...

BENZ-LGB · #6 06-18-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistress

.....poweroff stalls next time...

Mistress · #7 06-18-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

separates the men from the men....power-on stalls are worse...

cscmc1 · #8 06-18-2007, 04:18 PM

Speaking of fighter pilots, check this page out:

http://billetjohn.free.fr/index_en.html

Episode 1 is my personal favorite. Watch all the way to the end.

Mistress · #9 06-18-2007, 04:23 PM

dang it- access denied...

cscmc1 · #10 06-18-2007, 04:27 PM

Mistress -- do you have a mailbox quota? If not, PM me your address and I'll email you the clip. It's ~66MB.

They're animated, narrated clips (French with subtitles). Pretty entertaining if you're anything-but a fighter jock. Well, I suspect jet jocks would get a kick out of them as well. As a tanker maintainer, I get an extra kick out of the KC-10's role.

Mistress · #11 06-18-2007, 04:30 PM

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Mistress -- do you have a mailbox quota? If not, PM me your address and I'll email you the clip. It's ~66MB.

oh no, i can look at home i am at work....so i'll check it out tonight. thanks.

cscmc1 · #12 06-18-2007, 04:34 PM

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oh no, i can look at home i am at work....so i'll check it out tonight. thanks.

Right-o. Enjoy!

G-Benz · #13 06-19-2007, 12:54 PM

There is an active duty pilot that attends our church here who flew the mission during the first Gulf War to bomb Saddam's winter palace.

He noted at one talk at church how he got REAL close to God during the flight, since the Iraqis were shooting EVERYTHING at him...even his wingman had to ditch him because of the amount of flak in the air!

Medmech · #14 06-19-2007, 12:58 PM

My brother is a KC-135/10 pilot and he says that the fighter pilot job is over rated. He can fly a T-38 whenever he want's and enjoys the coffee maker aboard his 135.

cscmc1 · #15 06-19-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Benz

There is an active duty pilot that attends our church here who flew the mission during the first Gulf War to bomb Saddam's winter palace.

He noted at one talk at church how he got REAL close to God during the flight, since the Iraqis were shooting EVERYTHING at him...even his wingman had to ditch him because of the amount of flak in the air!

Kinda like this?

http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/LucasStL/1180/large/

MAJOR pucker-factor