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Old 06-30-2007, 11:10 AM
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Do you even know a "far-left" liberal? Have you ever elected one or observed one in office? Some how, I doubt it.

Hillary is nowhere near "far-left", although, sometimes it's difficult to know exactly where she is...........
Like GW (a right-wing socialist), she seems to be carving out her own space on the political spectrum. Her ignorant drum-beating on the Senate floor linking 9-11 and Al Qaeda to Saddam and Iraq, thus advocating invasion, is all I need to know about Ms. Clinton.

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Old 06-30-2007, 11:14 AM
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Like GW (a right-wing socialist), she seems to be carving out her own space on the political spectrum. Her ignorant drum-beating on the Senate floor linking 9-11 and Al Qaeda to Saddam and Iraq, thus advocating invasion, is all I need to know about Ms. Clinton.
Like any good Clinton politico, she will waft with the current breeze...........I'm not a supporter of her because, like Bill, there really is no position that she cannot abscond with on a moment's notice.
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Old 06-30-2007, 11:35 AM
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Agreed -- Mitt Romney seems to have a similar, if less mercurial affliction.
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:20 PM
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Like GW (a right-wing socialist), she seems to be carving out her own space on the political spectrum. Her ignorant drum-beating on the Senate floor linking 9-11 and Al Qaeda to Saddam and Iraq, thus advocating invasion, is all I need to know about Ms. Clinton.
And that recent crap from her about how we gave Iraqis the chance for freedom but they've blown it does not impress.
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Like GW (a right-wing socialist).
Does that equal 'National Socialist'?
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And that recent crap from her about how we gave Iraqis the chance for freedom but they've blown it does not impress.
In a word she is horrible. I listened briefly to the Dem debate the other night I think the only person who likes hearing her speak is herself. I will never understand people who's sole ambition in life is to get elected to a position such as the presidency when they do not genuinely have an agenda to do some good.
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An "agenda to do some good" may be worse than no agenda at all. What's good for many people is abhorrent to myself (which works the other way too).

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Old 06-30-2007, 08:40 PM
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Do you even know a "far-left" liberal? Have you ever elected one or observed one in office? Some how, I doubt it.

Hillary is nowhere near "far-left", although, sometimes it's difficult to know exactly where she is...........

Hillary...Not far left?????? Give me a break...........

She's for:

Abortion
Gun Control
Gay Marriage
Amnesty For Illegal Aliens
Censorship Of The Media .......Just to name a few.....and the list go's on.....

Dude.......I loath...the far right or the far left wingers......BOTH SUCK!!..
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Old 06-30-2007, 08:43 PM
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Hillary...Not far left?????? Give me a break...........

She's for:

Abortion
Gun Control
Gay Marriage
Amnesty For Illegal Aliens
Censorship Of The Media .......Just to name a few.....and the list go's on.....

Dude.......I loath...the far right or the far left wingers......BOTH SUCK!!..
........censorship of the media.........???
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Old 06-30-2007, 08:45 PM
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Abortion
Gun Control
Gay Marriage
Amnesty For Illegal Aliens
Censorship Of The Media
These issues transcend left and right.

I am for the choice of abortion. Don't want one, don't have one.
I am for the choice of gun ownership. Don't want one, don't buy one.
I am for the choice of marriage. Want to marry someone? Why should I get in your way.
I do not think we need amnesty for illegal aliens.
Censorship is a darling of the far right. I want choice, not censorship. For example, I would love to be able to choose the (few) cable channels that I want, without getting (and paying for) trash like MTV.
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Old 06-30-2007, 08:48 PM
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These issues transcend left and right.

I am for the choice of abortion. Don't want one, don't have one.
I am for the choice of gun ownership. Don't want one, don't buy one.
I am for the choice of marriage. Want to marry someone? Why should I get in your way.
In all three cases, you don't want the government telling you how to live your life.

I don't see how this makes you a "far left liberal".
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Old 06-30-2007, 08:50 PM
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These issues transcend left and right.

I am for the choice of abortion. Don't want one, don't have one.
I am for the choice of gun ownership. Don't want one, don't buy one.
I am for the choice of marriage. Want to marry someone? Why should I get in your way.
I do not think we need amnesty for illegal aliens.
Censorship is a darling of the far right. I want choice, not censorship. For example, I would love to be able to choose the (few) cable channels that I want, without getting (and paying for) trash like MTV.

That's your point of view.....and I respect it....

Have been shooting lately??,,,,
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Old 06-30-2007, 09:09 PM
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........censorship of the media.........???
The Fairness Doctrine?????.......Censorship at its finest........Libs..

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200701/NAT20070117a.html
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Old 06-30-2007, 09:12 PM
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Have been shooting lately?
I wish. I've been much too busy around the house.

However, we got the lawn mowed, and I will probably hang a few curtain rods this evening; perhaps I'll take the initiative and get out to the range tomorrow.

If so, you can take some of the credit.
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Old 06-30-2007, 09:18 PM
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The Fairness Doctrine?????.......Censorship at its finest........Libs..

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200701/NAT20070117a.html

........yep.......presenting both sides of an issue.........now there's some censorship for 'ya............

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