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Old 10-25-2007, 08:39 PM
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4 hours of "employment" is not worthy of the word or worthy anyone's time worrying about; and if a prospective employer digs that deep to find the gap, then I say shake the **** off your shoes and find another place to work.
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Well, at this point, he is committed already. Best thing to do is STFU and hope nobody finds out. Hopefully he won't slip up and say "Oh, that place sucks to work at......".

Ever is a long time. The odds might be in his favor but saying that nobody will every discover it is another thing. It is UNLIKELY that he will ever be found out unless he makes an oopsie but it is NOT impossible that he is found out. With the internet that Al Gore created or invented or whatever, many things are open to discovery.
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If they do find that four-hour job, I would simply say, "It was only four hours. I didn't think it mattered."

It doesn't matter. Nobody will care, even if they do find it.
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:07 PM
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4 hours of "employment" is not worthy of the word or worthy anyone's time worrying about; and if a prospective employer digs that deep to find the gap, then I say shake the **** off your shoes and find another place to work.
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I can tell you that as an employer, I would be leery. It spells "QUITTER" real loud. Like I said, they might not dig that deep but it may come out in conversation and then there might be an issue raised. It tells me that that person isn't even professional enough to give notice. Secondly, it makes me wonder about that person as to whether they will do the same to me someday.

That is why I said he has to make sure he doesn't mention it to anyone else.
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If they do find that four-hour job, I would simply say, "It was only four hours. I didn't think it mattered."

It doesn't matter. Nobody will care, even if they do find it.
I would if I ever found out. I would question the person's honesty and ability to be professional.
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:48 PM
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^^^ Don't you think the prospective employer's response depends on the job from which he quit and the job for which he is hoping to be hired?

For example, I got fired from a job once and it NEVER affected my subsequent employment. It was when I worked in a chicken rendering plant between stints in university. I couldn't stand university so I could only go a couple of years at a time before I'd drop out and work for a couple of years.

Don't know what chicken rendering plant is? Ever wonder what happens to the chicken parts you don't eat?

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I would if I ever found out. I would question the person's honesty and ability to be professional.
Then you're being so petty that I would wonder if it was a plus to be working for you. What might you pick on if called for a reference?

Typically you do not list very short-term jobs on a CV. If that's a problem for you, please join the real world. Four hours isn't a lot of investment in the job for either party. Sure, some was lost in the hiring, but more would be lost if the job went for six months of misery.
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^^^ Don't you think the prospective employer's response depends on the job from which he quit and the job for which he is hoping to be hired?

For example, I got fired from a job once and it NEVER affected my subsequent employment. It was when I worked in a chicken rendering plant between stints in university. I couldn't stand university so I could only go a couple of years at a time before I'd drop out and work for a couple of years.

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I guess it depends on the employer.

Fired only means that your employer decided it was in their best interests to sever the relationship. Unless it was for something major like theft, insubordination, etc, etc, as an employer, I wouldn't worry too much. I'd like to know who I am talking to but might not be too worried. If it shows a pattern like you being fired every now and then, well...... Could be that you disagreed on policy. If so, it might not be an issue.

I'd rather not know.
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Then you're being so petty that I would wonder if it was a plus to be working for you. What might you pick on if called for a reference?

Typically you do not list very short-term jobs on a CV. If that's a problem for you, please join the real world. Four hours isn't a lot of investment in the job for either party. Sure, some was lost in the hiring, but more would be lost if the job went for six months of misery.
I suppose it depends on my employees. I am pretty nit-picky when it comes to certain things and pretty lax when it comes to others.

I realize it is not a lot of investment. However, don't you think it shows a poor picture of the character of the person? If you did that to your last employer, how do I know that one day, you won't just say "I quit" in the middle of a shift to me? Won't you be skeptical? If somebody is trying to hide that, what else are they hiding?
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While I don't do "shift" work as a computer programmer ("Technical Specialist," they call me), people can and do essentially walk out in the middle of a project. It literally takes months to become productive in my job. You're paid for those months.

If someone worked six months and quit without a valid reason, it would raise red flags. Quitting on the first day, much less so. So much less so that I wouldn't expect to see it on their CV.

I did quit one job after five months, but I had a very good reason. In fact, I didn't really want to quit that job but it was in the best interest of both me and the employer. It's something that can be explained in fifteen seconds, and has been.
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:31 AM
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I wouldn't mention it on a resume. Not worth the time talking about.
If someone ever brings it up, it's simply a matter of "that employer misrepresenting the actual job, it was half a day, and it was immediately clear it was a situation that was not as described in the interview".

Oh, just to clarify, I know language changes, but...

What's the difference between a resume and a CV?
The primary differences are the length, the content and the purpose. A resume is a one or two page summary of your skills, experience and education. A goal of resume writing is to be brief and concise since, at best, the resume reader will spend a minute or so reviewing your qualifications.

A Curriculum Vitae, commonly referred to as CV, is a longer (two or more pages), more detailed synopsis. It includes a summary of your educational and academic backgrounds as well as teaching and research experience, publications, presentations, awards, honors, affiliations and other details.

In the United States a Curriculum Vitae is used primarily when applying for international, academic, education, scientific or research positions or when applying for fellowships or grants.

CV is the new trendy thing to say, but isn't accurate.
Wikipedia definitions don't count.

No need to correct anyone interviewing you using the term though, unless you have already decided you're not interested in the job and just want to have a little fun for a "practice interview".
Practice interviews are good experience, even if for jobs you'd never really consider.
No one keeps a record of where you apply , unless through an agency or recruiter. For those, be on your best behavior, 'cause you never know.
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Don't know what chicken rendering plant is? Ever wonder what happens to the chicken parts you don't eat?

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[QUOTE=Botnst;1656864 . . . For example, I got fired from a job once and it NEVER affected my subsequent employment. It was when I worked in a chicken rendering plant between stints in university. . . . B[/QUOTE]

Bot, I couldn't imagine that anyone would ever fault you for leaving a rendering plant under ANY circumstances. I bet that job made school look a lot better, huh?
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No, you're thinking of used antifreeze, aren't you? That"s a major component in Chinese pet food, I understand.
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