Perhaps less apologizing and hand-wringing and more behavioral changes are the best course . . .

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1998 Lincoln Continental - Sold
Max 1984 300TD 285,000 miles - Sold
The Dee8gonator 1987 560SEC 196,000 miles - Sold
Orgasmatron - 2006 CLS500 90,000 miles
2002 C320 Wagon 122,000 miles
2016 AMG GTS 12,000 miles

Perhaps so. however, that doesn't mean I have to atone for something someone else did nor am I responsible..

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IMO, there's a difference between 'who pays for it' and 'how do we help those who were abused'.

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Semantically, yes. However, how do you differentiate between the two? Comes out to the same thing in the end, doesn't it? You say "To May To" and I say "To Mah To". Still talking about the same thing except different way of saying it, aren't we?

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03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
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Bingo.

This thread...

Is it my imagination....Or you do guys?....have "no real sex life"?..

Aka...Just ...Spankers/Hoes...........eeeesh

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1984 300SD.. White/Chrome Bunts..Green

1997 2500 Dodge Ram 5.9 Cummins 12 Valve 36 PSI of Boost = 400+hp & 800+tQ .. ..Greenspeed

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Global warming...Doing my part, Smokin da hippies..

Fight the good fight!......

I would guess most of us do. However, our sex life is not a 24X7 thing. IOW, we don't get laid, eat, get laid, bathroom, etc, etc.

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99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

I've heard numerous reports that the truth and reconcilliation process in South Africa has been a plus. Sincere apology can have power but there has to be some atonement that goes with it.

Lot of problems there still, of coure, but progress is being made.

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1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K

Don't none of us have it as good as you, bro.

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1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K

I'll be willing to apologize for something I have done and try make amends. I don't want to have to apologize for something my father or grandfather did to your father or grandfather.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

Psssst, I have it better. God told me that he was playing a joke on Matt SD300 but asked me not to tell him as he and Peter wanted to spring it on him at the pearly gates.

It all equals out. Everyone owes everyone an apology and so it is a wash. Who was the worst? Depends on when and where you look and who you ask. People who kept no records are in the clear. It is easier to go after the ones who kept better records.

I have been talking to several older Black Gentlemen recently here in south alabama. If you want an example of something to feel guilty about: Black US GIs fought in the Korean war and weren't allowed to vote when/if they came home. You back the government responsible for this?

Lets strip to the waist and go from city to city flogging ourselves in a frenzy of apology . . .

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" We have nothing to fear but the main stream media itself . . . ."- Adapted from Franklin D Roosevelt for the 21st century

OBK #55

1998 Lincoln Continental - Sold
Max 1984 300TD 285,000 miles - Sold
The Dee8gonator 1987 560SEC 196,000 miles - Sold
Orgasmatron - 2006 CLS500 90,000 miles
2002 C320 Wagon 122,000 miles
2016 AMG GTS 12,000 miles

When did you change your mind, you told me the spanking was enough.

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1987 420 SEL

Explains a lot . . . .

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1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K