Jesus not a unique suffering Messiah - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

aklim · #10 07-12-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

No "proof" other than the testimony of eyewitnesses, combined with the violent deaths of most of the original disciples/apostles. Men do not generally die for what they know to be a lie. ( others will argue that point).

People we cannot question to see if they really saw what they saw. People see lots of things. Some true, some false. No, you are right, men do not generally die for what the know to be a lie. But just because they think they know it is the truth doesn't make it the truth. People willingly died when Jim Jones told them to do so because they believed what he said. Didn't make what he said true either.