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Old 04-06-2009, 08:21 PM
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What exact part of the movie leads you to the impression that he actually was a madman? Just interested. It's been awhile that I have seen it.
Oh my,,, let me count the ways. Let me just say that almost every decision and statement he made in the last days had most of his Generals rolling their eyes and behind his back, saying he was crazy. His own hatred of the German civilians and his own Generals would classify him for a section 8 in our military. He made Captain Queeg [sp], look like a normal person.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:24 PM
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Oh my,,, let me count the ways. Let me just say that almost every decision and statement he made in the last days had most of his Generals rolling their eyes and behind his back, saying he was crazy. His own hatred of the German civilians and his own Generals would classify him for a section 8 in our military. He made Captain Queeg [sp], look like a normal person.
According to all historical records, his decision making was wildly flawed all along throughout his Fuehrerdom, but what we're talking about here is still a movie.
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:04 PM
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According to all historical records, his decision making was wildly flawed all along throughout his Fuehrerdom, but what we're talking about here is still a movie.
Yep,,,, which brings me back to my original thought,,,, how much was fact ? I am VERY suspicious of conversations that were made between two people in private, when they are both dead.
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:05 PM
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Yep,,,, which brings me back to my original thought,,,, how much was fact ? I am VERY suspicious of conversations that were made between two people in private, when they are both dead.
I may have to watch it again in order to back up my complete recollection of it. It was a good movie, ecellent acting and cinematography, yet it left me still inconclusive.

In all the years of searching through this subject, I have found that most of the material is not really reliable in its interpretation.

Personally, I think he ended up in a state of madness throughout the progression of developments, yet there are indications that every aspect of the endevour was initially driven by madness or insanity.

I recently watched "Triumph of the Will". I literally had to force myself to do so. The DVD was laying there for an entire week unwatched until the day before I had to return it.

It is an unspeakable lesson, but stunning enough, is the descrapency of the original German soundtrack vs. the subtitled English naration.

Another example is the English title translation of "Mein Kampf". "My Struggle" is not an authentic interpretation of the words 'Mein Kampf'. It is misleading. It should be "My Fight".
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:22 PM
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Yep,,,, which brings me back to my original thought,,,, how much was fact ? I am VERY suspicious of conversations that were made between two people in private, when they are both dead.
IIRC, the original book the movie was based itself based on eyewitness accounts of not only the secretary, but of the servents staff and Hitler's personal valet as well, a man who survived the war. I've seen him on the tube in other documentaries, he is a pretty credible, rather nice old man who spent his young life pressing the pants of one of history's greatest mass murders, fitting his cufflinks while Hilter and Goebbels discussed fine wine, opera, and massacreing ever Jew in Europe.
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