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Old 05-12-2009, 11:56 AM
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Either way who's going to buy an 80hp car? That's unpopular.


Apparantly lots of people.

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Old 05-12-2009, 12:03 PM
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How heavy is this thing?

I'm still holding out for a diesel hybrid.
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:28 PM
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As others have mentioned, I'm sure the mileage would be reduced in order to meet U.S. standards. Even then, it'd be outstanding mileage. Which wouldn't sell, because it doesn't have the right image. It isn't fast enough to sell to most of our masses (you need at least 300 hp to take your kids to soccer practice; 350 if you're really important), and it doesn't have the pat-yourself-on-the-back buzz that a hybrid does. All it is is a simple diesel engine in a small, no-frills car with enough power to get you there and enough room for you and a few belongings. There aren't very many people in this country who appreciate that.
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:53 PM
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Of course it also would not meet Cali emmisions laws just because it is a Diesel never mind the fact that it is rated at 76mpg and got 30 mpg better durig this test... We are going to be stuck with hydrogen fuel cells and gas/electric hybrids due to our laws while the rest of the world runs these high mpg diesels and will run them on bio fuels...
True that! By the time it was porked out to meet the crash and emissions standards mpg's would decrease and the price would increase. The Prius, and hybrids et al., are safe here because of that.

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...and it doesn't have the pat-yourself-on-the-back buzz that a hybrid does.
That little tidbit can't be dismissed. It blends in too much. It doesn't scream "LOOK HOW GREEN I AM!".
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:55 PM
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Apparantly lots of people.
That's a 55hp car. And apparently only one sold in Maryland.

Another terrible attempt to rebrand GM using the Geo brand made by...oh yeah...Suzuki.
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Old 05-12-2009, 01:00 PM
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Anyone know what the pricing looks like for these?
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Old 05-12-2009, 01:13 PM
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Anyone know what the pricing looks like for these?
Here's a decent review of the car, and it mentions £11,000 as the price in UK. That would equal to about $16,760.
http://cars.uk.msn.com/Reviews/article.aspx?cp-documentid=11616916

I don't know about US new car prices but it feels like a competitive price for a small car in Europe
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With gas being cheap again, econo-diesels like this one will have a hard time making it to the US, where people still generally prefer size and power over economy. Hope for $5 gas, and we might see more cars like this here.

EDIT: On second thought, if the EPA starts regulating CO2 emissions, cars like this will have a better chance of making it here even if gas isn't very expensive.
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Old 05-13-2009, 05:01 AM
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With gas being cheap again, econo-diesels like this one will have a hard time making it to the US, where people still generally prefer size and power over economy. Hope for $5 gas, and we might see more cars like this here.
We'll see about that. Oil prices are on the run again, hitting $60/bbl yesterday. Up 80% since recession low of $33/bbl
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Old 05-13-2009, 05:35 AM
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will run them on bio fuels...
Not using modern engines.

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