Yep...I get it...

Here's what I have already:

I have a car that's 100% paid for...the only thing I need to provide ANY OUTLAY FOR is some maintenance...

HOWEVER...If I'm drawn in by the Sirens' Songs of the Government Waste Machine...I can get the following...

1. - A new car, where if the rebate is matched, it MIGHT just about cover the depreciation I get when I stick the key in the ignition, turn it and drive off the dealers' lot...

2. - A new car, that now requires a higher insurance premium...my older unit didn't need to carry all of that other crap...but hey...I'm now sticking money that I could have used for other items into some insurance monkey's pocket...Oh! Joy!

3. - A new car, that despite its newness, will still require the same type and amount of REGULAR maintenance...and since I've always been a little skeptical of maintenance intervals in the newer models...I'll still stick to the same tried and true methods that have allowed me to keep my current stock of vehicles long after everyone else has trashed theirs...

4. - And I also get to watch a carefully maintained, wonderful piece of road-worthy history get unceremoniously raped and destroyed by earthers that couldn't care less about quality, let alone appreciate anything but their short-sighted and ill-gotten gains.

Yah...I get it...If I "buy" into the Government's plan of removing "junkers/clunkers" from our highways...I'm getting it alright...right up the ol' Hershey Highway...Shift column, shift column boot and transmission too.

Short-term thinking for short-term solutions...and the bankers still get money stuck into their pockets...

Remember the term NEW CAR PAYMENTS????



Somebody wake the bus driver up...there's a chance we might crash. Oh! Wait! Never mind...I'll just get off this lemmings' express...

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M. G. Burg
'10 - Dakota SXT - Daily Ride / ≈ 172.5K
.'76 - 450SLC - 107.024.12 / < .89.20 K
..'77 - 280E - 123.033.12 / > 128.20 K
...'67 - El Camino - 283ci / > 207.00 K
....'75 - Yamaha - 650XS / < 21.00 K
.....'87 - G20 Sportvan / > 206.00 K
......'85 - 4WINNS 160 I.O. / 140hp
.......'74 - Honda CT70 / Real 125
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“I didn’t really say everything I said.”
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It a better deal than the trillions we are spending in Iraq.

I have to ask...WTF does "Cluckers For Cash" have to do w/Iraq?

Slow day at the keyboard?

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M. G. Burg
'10 - Dakota SXT - Daily Ride / ≈ 172.5K
.'76 - 450SLC - 107.024.12 / < .89.20 K
..'77 - 280E - 123.033.12 / > 128.20 K
...'67 - El Camino - 283ci / > 207.00 K
....'75 - Yamaha - 650XS / < 21.00 K
.....'87 - G20 Sportvan / > 206.00 K
......'85 - 4WINNS 160 I.O. / 140hp
.......'74 - Honda CT70 / Real 125
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“I didn’t really say everything I said.”
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ~ Yogi Berra ~

The g'ment is spending money on a project you disagree with. But I have yet to read you disagree with invading Iraq-a much, much larger expense.

Just like you, I have my pet "faves" - This thread is not about one of them...therefore, I comment in the negative...

I'm assuming you would comment in the negative, about a money-pit hole like Iraq, likewise...

Therefore, we agree to disagree...

Now, if we could pack a few pounds of uranium in a neat little package, wrap a "clunker" 1990 Chrysler Mini-van around it, then fly it over to the Afgan border and drop a few on top of OBL, then you and I could be a little closer to some common ground as to what our Government might be doing that would qualify it for a pat on the back...

But, until then...

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M. G. Burg
'10 - Dakota SXT - Daily Ride / ≈ 172.5K
.'76 - 450SLC - 107.024.12 / < .89.20 K
..'77 - 280E - 123.033.12 / > 128.20 K
...'67 - El Camino - 283ci / > 207.00 K
....'75 - Yamaha - 650XS / < 21.00 K
.....'87 - G20 Sportvan / > 206.00 K
......'85 - 4WINNS 160 I.O. / 140hp
.......'74 - Honda CT70 / Real 125
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“I didn’t really say everything I said.”
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ~ Yogi Berra ~

Don't let the door smack you in the ass on the way out.

In the mean time, our national and local economies are getting a big boost from this program and many people will keep their jobs because of it. But obviously your to narrow minded to see the bigger picture here and what this program will actually accomplish.

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Question Authority before it Questions you.

I'd say you are the narrow minded one throwing out insults like that. You are near the top of the list of insulters for no reason here on SF. How much energy is spent designing the new car? How much energy is spent getting the raw materials for the new car? How much energy is spent transforming the materials into the car shape? How much energy is spent building the new car? How much energy is spent shipping the new car? How much energy is spent marketing the new car? No study has been done on this yet everyone seems to claim this is better for the planet. I cannot think of one example of destroying something that works perfectly in order to have a newer one that shows that's the right thing to do, or better for the planet.
McCain's got it right: we don't need to give money to the big three since we own one of them.

I don't know about all of the envireonmental consequenses of this program and I really dont care, but I have been feeling a need to rid myself of my mercedes for the past year. I seem to hang on and it lets me down. Its had a good run and I really like the car, but I am looking to stay out from underneath a car for a while. If this program doesnt stick thats cool, Ill get a used car. Either way the benz was gonna go anyway.What doesnt go to the big three goes to phil, mbusa and my mechanic.

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1984 300SD Orient Red/ Palomino
1989 560SEC
2016 Mazda 6 6 speed manual
1995 Ford F-150 reg cab 4.9 5speed manual

Who is actually doing the checking that the engines are actually disabled?
Seems to me that is the most valueable part of the car. Sort of like destroying confiscated firearms instead of selling them or returning them to their once-rightful owners. Feel-good legislation that doesn't really accomplish anything except waste resources.

Agreed. It almost seems a spiteful ceremonial gesture. It may be the case for most of the engines that recycling the metals is the most effective use, but they're making it seem like they're tearing down the Berlin Wall.

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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles
1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles
2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles
1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles
1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car)

Well, if the door is hitting me on the way out, it's hitting my wallet that still has cash in it and I'm sure that I'm going the right direction from inside the burning building and out where I have a chance to survive...economically. Thanks for the "ass-warning" - I like that advice when it's given in the right circumstances!

As for the "...your (you're) to (too) narrow minded..." crack... ( ) see if anyone can explain to us "thinned-gray-mattered folks" where the "Cash For Clunkers" cash is actually coming from?

The "Green Tree" down the street?

Little Miss Muffett's tuffet?

That pot at the end of the rainbow?

Johnny: OH!!!!! I KNOW!!!!! I KNOW!!!!! PICK ME!!!!! PICK ME!!!!
Teacher: OK! Johnny? Where is the "Cash For Clunker" cash coming from?
Johnny: It's coming right from your @**!!!!

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

Oh, did we happen to forget that little part?

What comes from the Gubment was already taken from us (or will be by the 15th of next April) and we won't be getting 100% of it back...either.

So, enjoy the "free cash" before you open your eyes folks...it might seem a slightly different color when you really realize where you're heading...again...in your financial future...

I avoided it the first time (Except in the 401(k) area! ), but I'm not steering myself anywhere near this branch in the logic road...it's a dead end street and there's nothing but bankers waiting at the end of it to pick u'all clean...

Enjoy that ride...again...but this time, take a little snowball with you...it might help cool you down as you go rollin' down...whereever...

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M. G. Burg
'10 - Dakota SXT - Daily Ride / ≈ 172.5K
.'76 - 450SLC - 107.024.12 / < .89.20 K
..'77 - 280E - 123.033.12 / > 128.20 K
...'67 - El Camino - 283ci / > 207.00 K
....'75 - Yamaha - 650XS / < 21.00 K
.....'87 - G20 Sportvan / > 206.00 K
......'85 - 4WINNS 160 I.O. / 140hp
.......'74 - Honda CT70 / Real 125
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“I didn’t really say everything I said.”
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ~ Yogi Berra ~