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Did Hitler Want War?
http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068
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Somebody needs to buy both you guys a copy of Mein Kampf.
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Leave it to Pat Buchanan to argue that Hitler wasn't such a bad guy after all.
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I'm pretty sure Buchanan has one on his bedstand.
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Another 'Hitler' thread!? Now what? Seems to me there's a whole bunch of people who just can't get over it.
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Shockingly, it's not very convincing and full of holes.
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Today's the 70th anniversary. A better title would have been: "Did Hitler Want War in 1939?" I think the Nazis were convinced of an eventual clash with the Soviet Union, but did not want a war with England or the USA.
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I have to agree that Hitler didn't really want a war. He just wanted everyone to yield to all his desires. Because other countries didn't, war came about. Therefore, war is the fault of those who would not yield.
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While I won't say Hilter wanted or didn't want war, I agree he probably expected it.
If you read Mien Kampf and some various other books on Hilter and WWII you will realize that if he had actually followed his plan there is a good chance of us speaking German. Maybe not the US, but Europe, and probably Britain and Russia would have fallen. His plan really was really good, BUT they started 5 to 10 years early. IF the navy and airforce had been complete, there would have been little stopping them. Consider the Bismarck, basically alone and hardly ready for battle, she gave the Brits fits. The UBoats were just devasting to shipping etc. Panther tanks were not much different, all but indestructable to most opposing armour at the time. He got fat headed, overextended and that lead to his downfall.
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But, I also can't accept that Hitler was the only obstacle to peace in 1939. Perhaps you can explain to me why England and France, when declaring war on Germany, did not simultaneously declare war on the Soviet Union when it took the other half of Poland in 1939? And what role did Lend Lease play in seeing that "eventually probably" (Germany would be at war with America), became more like a certainty? |
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this is all well and good but who the heck goes to Pat Buchanan for their WWII history??? the guy is a grade A d-bag and certainly no historian. this debate would be better if it was spawned by an actual historian, not some has been TV monkey talking head. just because someone is a politician and a TV personality, doesn't make them experts on everything. his presence in this thread is pointless and laughable. rant over.
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The distinction is that in the context of German foreign policy, "The Nazi's" ie everyone in the party other than Hitler himself were irrellivent. The only person who counted was Hitler. He did not rule by committee. He did what he thought best according to his own grand plan with no concern for the inputs of others.
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Are you being serious?
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