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Old 10-26-2009, 07:46 PM
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Envy? Shirley U. Jest

PC owners have the luxury of paying lower initial costs (except for Operating Systems); having tons of software written for them, including malware and anti-malware; and get to personally interact with customer support staff around the world, well . . . English speaking former British colonies, at least . . .
I agree.

And, therefore, there should be no response, whatsoever, to another company that charges significantly more for a competing product.

The fact that there is a response, and one filled with vitriol, tells that the individual would prefer to own the product............there cannot be any other explanation.

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Old 10-26-2009, 07:47 PM
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Keeping my eye on 7, not sure if I will update anytime soon. I'm apparently one of the rare Vista users who has not had any real issues with the OS.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:00 PM
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Keeping my eye on 7, not sure if I will update anytime soon. I'm apparently one of the rare Vista users who has not had any real issues with the OS.
I know a few people who are using vista with no problems, but I know more who just stayed with XP. IMHO, it is always wiser to wait a little while.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:04 PM
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Mrs MTI has a Toshiba laptop that came loaded with Vista and hasn't had any issues with it over the 15 or so months of using it. Navigating the menus was the biggest learning curve. She being a former northern NJ native, if there was any problem with it, fuggedaboutit! . . . know what I mean?

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Old 10-26-2009, 08:08 PM
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Yep, agree with both previous posts. At some point an update is inevitable. So whatchoogonnado about it?

Biggest Vista gripe was the UAC. Quickly disabled, but even 10 seconds of it was annoying enough.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:14 PM
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I haven't had a problem with XP. I haven't had a problem with Vista (both x32 and x64 versions of Business). I haven't had a problem with Windows 7 RC or RTM. (As a student, having access to MSDN:AA is a blessing ) I also like to tinker, tweak and keep things running well - perhaps this helps. I'm sure it also helps being born into a computer tech-savvy generation

With that said, I do like 7. Its interface takes certain hints from other operating systems (i.e. XGL from linux, for the taskbar window previews). It's clean, and well thought out - they really listened to thousands of beta testers and it shows that. Beyond the learning curve required with any 'new to the user' operating system, it's quite quick to pick up and use. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it on any new computer (even netbooks - I hear it runs great!). Personally, I wouldn't upgrade to it if I had a working operating system (if it isn't broken...), however, for a new computer - go for it
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:23 PM
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They get upset because they would prefer to own the product............if the price was not quite so high.

Whether they admit to the preference is an entirely different discussion.
If someone gave me a MAC I would put it on ebay immediately.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:29 PM
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Well, I pay that much for my computers (I'm running three or four of them at the moment). I will gladly pay a couple/few $1000 for a computer that doesn't cause me any hassles. I guess I could build my own computers, I could also grow my own vegetables and make my own shoes, but I have better things to do with my time.

The fact that the mac OS is designed to run on very specific hardware is exactly why it works (nearly) perfectly. Maybe that is cheating, so be it. If you want a more open (less expensive) system you have to live with the glitches, that's the trade-off.

I don't understand why people get upset by the price of products they don't own, if you think they are too expensive you don't have to buy one. I'm not complaining because I think the new G-class is too expensive, I'm just not going to buy one. Should I be mad at ferrari because most of their customers earn over $1M per year and I could buy a 'vette with similar performance for a lot less money?

I do hope that windows 7 works well, lots of folks will be happier without vista.
Except in most cases that is not true. My PC cost me less than $300, and took about 45 minutes for me to build + another 30 to install the OS. VS a comparative mac, it is hands down faster and cheaper....and I've had 0 issues at all. People who get "glitches" are the ones with really really cheapo hardware, if you buy decent stuff problems are very rare. For a person that likes to do a wide variety of potentially advanced computing tasks, the MAC is much more frustrating and less adaptable.

I complain about MAC's prices because they make a killing on overcharging their customers for the same thing everyone else has, except it has a shiny cover on it and Steve Jobs saying its "fantastic", and "awesome".
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If someone gave me a MAC I would put it on ebay immediately.
Give me a chance to buy it first.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:42 PM
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Except in most cases that is not true. My PC cost me less than $300, and took about 45 minutes for me to build + another 30 to install the OS. VS a comparative mac, it is hands down faster and cheaper....and I've had 0 issues at all. People who get "glitches" are the ones with really really cheapo hardware, if you buy decent stuff problems are very rare. For a person that likes to do a wide variety of potentially advanced computing tasks, the MAC is much more frustrating and less adaptable.

I complain about MAC's prices because they make a killing on overcharging their customers for the same thing everyone else has, except it has a shiny cover on it and Steve Jobs saying its "fantastic", and "awesome".
I'm glad you were able to get what you wanted for a good price, I hope it works well for you.

Sorry, but I still don't understand why you care how much I pay for my macs. I'm currently using a MacBook Pro that cost about $2000 last year, and it meets my needs perfectly. I have a couple more at home that do their jobs very well. When the time comes I will buy replacement macs, regardless of cost. If I didn't think they were worth the price I wouldn't buy them. If I buy a $400 pair of shoes, are you going to get upset because I could have bought a $50 pair that is "just as good"?
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I complain about MAC's prices because they make a killing on overcharging their customers for the same thing everyone else has, except it has a shiny cover on it and Steve Jobs saying its "fantastic", and "awesome".
This makes absolutely no sense unless you covet the machine...........which is clearly not the case.

I certainly don't care that an S-550 costs over $100K............clearly way overpriced based upon the product. M/B makes a killing by overcharging their customers for this vehicle because it has a shiny cover on it and the M/B star on the hood.

Do you get your panties in a wad about the S-550? It's the precisely the same situation.

If you really want to get torqued off.............how about the prices of some women's shoes? A fellow by the name of Jimmy Choo makes an absolute killing by selling shoes for $600. per pair...........shoes that he probably paid less than $50 to manufacture.

Plenty of companies capitalize on their name to sell overpriced products. I say...........more power to them..........it keeps our economy humming.
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Yes, who in their right minds would pay for Stella Artois when a Pabst will get you buzzed for way less!
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Paul........somebody hijacked your account.........
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If you really want to get torqued off.............how about the prices of some women's shoes? A fellow by the name of Jimmy Choo makes an absolute killing by selling shoes for $600. per pair...........shoes that he probably paid less than $50 to manufacture.
After 20 years of marriage, I have the perfect solution to that problem; don't ask, don't tell.

I don't know why people (including mac fans) take computers so personally, it's just a tool; with a maximum useful life of about 4 years.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:03 PM
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I don't know why people (including mac fans) take computers so personally, it's just a tool; with a maximum useful life of about 4 years.
I do believe that it's the "Revenge on M/S" syndrome. They believe they are getting even with Gates and his inferior product............and they don't care about how much it costs to do it.

Macs have their place in the world.............for those people who do not desire to learn anything about the maintenance or the quirks of the machine...........they probably are preferred.

I agree about the four year time frame. I've been on a four year cycle since the 286...........only the last XP machine went five years. I expect this one to also go five years.

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