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Lathe and plaster merged into sheetrock.
Or maybe vice versa would make more sense as that would imply that the sheetrock is new and the lath and plaster old (duhhh).
Nice house in Marin, I'm guessing 20s or 30s - lath and plaster - studs are 3.75 x 2 - knob and tube wiring. I'm knocking out one wall to merge the master bedroom in Unit A with the bedroom in Unit B. This is about the nicest 2 unit house I've ever seen, not a duplex - unit A is a deluxe 2 bedroom while unit B is a deluxe studio. I'll have to heal over the stub where the old wall and ceiling were and I damn sure don't want to shorten an apprenticeship at lath and plaster from 2 years to 3 days. My first instinct is to use paper and hot mud over the joint tween the plaster and the rock, and sand and re-coat like I was enjoying myself.
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Seems to me that it's going to be very hard to make the wall and ceiling look seamless. Any chance of some kind of moulding at the joint to hide it?
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It sounds like a good opportunity to make a master bedroom suite, put a pair of french doors in there........
If the plaster is smooth and not too rippley then you shouldn't have a problem fixing a gap of that size. You should be able to skim coat the repair area and have it be pretty much completely hidden. |
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I floated the idea of putting a modest arch sort of transition at the joint. I checked the attic and the wall isn't load bearing - well it was a tiny amount - the roof rafter above it had a 3 foot small post resting on the top plate (not a steep roof) - the rest had one brace going from center of rafter over to the plate at the top of the common wall, the one that will stay in place - dining room on other side. So I added a brace. If I had needed to put in a triple 2x12 or something to support major weight, I'd have been off the hook for the seamless merge.
Oh well, should be interesting and I'll take pictures.
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Fine Homebuilding, January 2010 has an article for fixing damaged plaster walls that is pretty comprehensive
I've done some of this working on an 1860's wood frame townhouse- When I took down walls, I used a circular saw set for the depth of the plaster, and cut the plaster into squares. This way the plaster can be removed and then you can remove the lath (if its wood) so you can save it to fix holes. Dont just go at it with a sledge, as you will break plaster keys elsewhere and end up with loose plaster on the walls and ceiling Where the walls meet (the stub) there will be no lath, and this is where after removing the corner studs you can use the old lath to fur out the new gyp. board. Build up to the plaster surface with gyp. board so the mud is minimal. Paint the edges of the plaster with Plaster Weld- it is pepto bismol pink and acts as a primer to the plaster so the plaster does not suck all the moisture out of the mud. Use fiberglass mesh to bridge over the whole area and skim coat.
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Dude, I hope you are getting those materials tested, old plasters can be full of asbestos, 20's, 30's vintage is lousy with the stuff. As long as it is undisturbed, it is considered safe, but once you disturb it......
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If you can afford it putting a half inch of drywall over the whole ceiling makes a lot of sense. Patching the trench will be very hard to make nice. The expansion and contraction will probably crack the patch too.
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That's a good call, I'll look into it.
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It looks like I'll need to get a sheet of 1/4 and 3/8 sheetrock so as to patch in where needed.
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If it has wood lath I would expect to find horse hair in it instead of asbestos.
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It might be easier to meld LATH and plaster to sheetrock than lathE and plaster. Not quite so lumpy.
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