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Old 05-28-2010, 03:26 PM
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Left out of that clip was Paul Harvey's page 2. The rest of the story? As in, how much environmental damage was done? How many miles of coastline were damaged? Who paid the cleanup costs? Were any fisheries closed? How long did it take for the effects of the 79 damage to neutralize?

I might be mistaken, but I don't recall that spill reaching the gulf stream and fouling up Atlantic coastal waters.

At 4:16 the anchor says this was a "Mexican" spill. Operation Sombrero. Mexicans are officially idiots too???
It was the exact same company that had the spill in 79 that has caused this one.
An american mega corporation.
Sedco, who later changed their name to Transocean.
Same company, same area, same mistakes !

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Plane wrecks aren't usually considered an environmental disaster.

Oil spills are.

The two things aren't even within the same spectrum of events.
I have yet to hear a plane crash be called a national disaster.

And the point of this thread is that it keeps happening over and over again.
No one is "modifying procedures"

Your right wing propaganda is sickening !
Do you support oil spills ???

Just exactly what pundit did you hear this drivel from ??

Calm down a bit will you?

I posted that we need to modify our procedures. You even quoted that.
Then you blame me for my right wing agenda, missing, apparently the very thing you quoted. If I am calling for doing something that has not yet been done, how am I advancing some agenda?
You need to stop reading the talking points, and read what people actually write when they respond to you.

Its also more than a little insulting for you to assume I got this from someone else. Much like you, I do my own thinking.
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Old 05-28-2010, 05:03 PM
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Calm down a bit will you?

I posted that we need to modify our procedures. You even quoted that.
Then you blame me for my right wing agenda, missing, apparently the very thing you quoted. If I am calling for doing something that has not yet been done, how am I advancing some agenda?
You need to stop reading the talking points, and read what people actually write when they respond to you.

Its also more than a little insulting for you to assume I got this from someone else. Much like you, I do my own thinking.
My mistake I thought you were saying that was the routine, ie to learn and adjust.

I try desperately not to read or fall for any of the talking points.

But it seems the right makes everything a talking point.
And then tells its followers that when someone says anything contrary to their talking point, that that they are just following some liberal agenda.

Free thinking is not a liberal agenda.

An oil spill is not a political event.

This country is so screwed.

We have sold our soul to the company store !!

Where are the Tea Party Patriots now were going to be spending millions
of government dollars on the cleanup of this spill, when BP and friends should
be fined and imprisoned ?

If I dumped a bunch of oil in a local water supply, I would be fined and maybe imprisoned, why not BP ?

Money for war, or clean up for BP = Amerikan Democracy.

Money for healthcare = Socialized Dictatorship.

Its just plain ignorance !!! Disgusting stupidity !!!
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Old 05-29-2010, 02:36 AM
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and ... to add a bit of fuel (pun intended)

Drilling offshore a mile down or 5000+ feet or 1700+ yards makes soo much more sense than shale oil drilling. Ohh yes, after all, a blowout on land might cause the willy wanka chartreuse antennaed scorby to have to move 3 or 400 feet away from where they are currently doing their own version of the 'ugly bump'.

Please dont forget either ... according to the statements our great one made yesterday "I am in charge". Based on what Ive seen in ~18 months if that statement is true we are in for a long, long, long oil spill.
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Yea his time line is rather slower than many thought.

Closing Gitmo
Repealing Dont ask
Ending Iraq war.

And it doesnt look like the healthcare thing will be settled for years.

Hope the bailout and cleanup for BP is a little faster, for our sake.
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I encourage everyone to print this and post this image in appropriate places near BP stations or Transocean offices.

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And exactly what do you hope to accomplish by that?

The owners of BP stations are independent businessmen; not employees or officers of BP.

Your plea makes no sense unless inflicting the greatest harm on the greatest number of people is your desire.
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Old 05-29-2010, 05:16 PM
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And exactly what do you hope to accomplish by that?

The owners of BP stations are independent businessmen; not employees or officers of BP.

Your plea makes no sense unless inflicting the greatest harm on the greatest number of people is your desire.
And besides, wouldn't want to piss off a major Demokrat campaign contributor......

http://exposingliberallies.blogspot.com/2010/05/bp-was-big-contributor-to-obama.html
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I have to wonder about this vilification of BP. Shouldn't we wait until we know the facts?

Do you all really think that "keeping your foot on BP's throat" is really helpful? Does that attitude provide more incentive then the $$Million a day BP is losing?

Do you REALLY think Obama has "been on this since day "? If so, it begs the question---"To what effect has Obama been on this since day 1?"
Is it incompetence, or a larger political motivation that has caused the deliberate slowness in federal help on the scene?

Maybe he hates LA, because its a red state
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It was the exact same company that had the spill in 79 that has caused this one.
An american mega corporation.
Sedco, who later changed their name to Transocean.
Same company, same area, same mistakes !
Chicken Little, you need to check your facts. Sedco was never Transocean.
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I think the undertones of all this is pretty basic and not politically left or right. All we've been hearing is how "safe" it is and how "technologically advanced" the safety features are. They've basically lied to us about all that. The only "technological advances" made were in the ability to drill deeper. It's the same blow out preventer, birthday hat over the leak and junk in the pipe remedies as 30 years ago. There have been NO advancements in disaster relief/recovery/repair.

To make it political for a moment - and this DOES apply to both sides and their extremes - to really sit there gleefully and chant: "The market will take care of itself" is either stupid or naive. Of course the "market" will take care of itself. It will maximize the bottom line at any cost to you, me, the environment. Allowing the "market" to police itself is like allowing the prisoners to choose their sentence.... And to add to that point, 11 people are DEAD thanks to the bottom line. If I have one too many drinks today, get behind the wheel and kill ONE person, I'll be in jail before I sober up. The travesty. HOLIDAY TRAGEDY !!! will be the lead tonight. SINGLE DRUNK DRIVER KILLS FATHER OF FOUR WITH NEW-BORN ON THE WAY !!! Oh the horror and tragedy I caused.... Well there are 11 families missing a loved one today, some 40+ days later and where's their justice....
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Old 05-30-2010, 03:20 PM
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Chicken Little, you need to check your facts. Sedco was never Transocean.
Your kidding right ???
Check your own facts, and quit calling people names.

Transocean Sedco Forex Inc

http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Transocean-Sedco-Forex-Inc-Company-History.html

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Old 05-30-2010, 03:31 PM
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I have to wonder about this vilification of BP. Shouldn't we wait until we know the facts?

Do you all really think that "keeping your foot on BP's throat" is really helpful? Does that attitude provide more incentive then the $$Million a day BP is losing?

Do you REALLY think Obama has "been on this since day "? If so, it begs the question---"To what effect has Obama been on this since day 1?"
Is it incompetence, or a larger political motivation that has caused the deliberate slowness in federal help on the scene?

Maybe he hates LA, because its a red state
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Can you comprehend that the media and corporations are manipulating you.

Your blaming the president for this.
And letting the companies that did it , off the hook.

Your twisted right wing logic will put the american taxpayer on the hook for cleaning up this mess, and let the responsible parties go free.

How in the world to you come up with these completely twisted ideas ??
Where does your information come from ??
Stop it !!!
You hurt us all with that sort of thinking....
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Do you REALLY think Obama has "been on this since day "? If so, it begs the question---"To what effect has Obama been on this since day 1?"
Is it incompetence, or a larger political motivation that has caused the deliberate slowness in federal help on the scene?

Maybe he hates LA, because its a red state
You guys are so funny; screaming for less government at any occasion but when the sh#t hits the fan the government can't be there fast enough...
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You guys are so funny; screaming for less government at any occasion but when the sh#t hits the fan the government can't be there fast enough...
Couldn't agree more.. 15 months ago Jindal is saying no government is good government. Now he's crying that Obama is not swimming down 5000 feet and stuffing that pipe closed with his Super Fist. Perry cries succession and no stimulus money too.. Do a little research as to where a few new I-20 & I-30 projects are being funded from. Look back into the few days following Mr Perry's "succession" idea for the clip of him visiting the sites of the Texas wildfires last year and telling residents: "I'll be seeking FEDERAL DISASTER RELIEF FUNDS." Now that HAS TO BE TRUE because I saw it on the local FOX news affiliate that Saturday am...


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