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Old 08-18-2010, 10:40 AM
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Both will be gone come January!
Not really germane to the thread, the appeal documents are due in September, elections are in November.
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:36 AM
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And if the court does not think the prop 8 supporters have standing, then the case could be decided long before the elections.
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:59 AM
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And if the court does not think the prop 8 supporters have standing, then the case could be decided long before the elections.
Only in the state of California.
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And if the court does not think the prop 8 supporters have standing, then the case could be decided long before the elections.
In a unanimous decision, the court found that the proponents os Prop 8 have the requisite standing to appeal. The ruling protects the system by not allowing the action or inaction of the state to determine the legal course of the legal challenge.
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:55 AM
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I love the fact that neither Schwarzenegger nor Brown are willing to represent Prop 8.

I'm read that the opponents of Prop 8 are hoping that standing is not granted to the proponents of Prop 8. If standing is not granted, the case dies, marriage is allowed in CA and could spread to the rest of the country and they avoid the risk of loosing at the SCOUS.
I do not believe Arnie and Brown are right in not pursuing this to the SCOTUS. Scalia himself has stated, at the time sodomy laws were overturned, that once gay sex between consenting adults became legal, that gay marriage would have to be found to be constitutional - his main reason for dissenting in the Texas sodomy case that overturned all sodomy laws. The last thing in the world the anti-gay crowd wants is this issue before the Supreme Court - which is why they have put all their effort into these ridiculous elections that only prove that the majority of people are bigots, just like they did when interracial marriage was an issue. As yet, not one person has been able to articulate any kind of argument putting forth the compelling reason The State has to interfere in a legal contract between two consenting adults where no one is harmed, which is all marriage really is. Until one anti-gay person can come up with one solid reason as to why The State has a right to interfere in a valid contract when it has no compelling interest to do so, under our systems of laws, gay marriage is Constitutional.
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I was just watching the news and it looks like the ban has been over turned. I guess now it goes to the appellate court and then the SCOTUS.

I am glad it got over turned. One step closer to equality.Prop 8 overturned

Yeah, you sure wouldn't want the will of the people to prevail. All good liberals know that the US Govt. knows what's best for the citizenry, not the citizenry itself.
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:07 AM
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Yeah, you sure wouldn't want the will of the people to prevail. All good liberals know that the US Govt. knows what's best for the citizenry, not the citizenry itself.
The will of the people used to endorse slavery, prohibition, laws against interracial marriage, and other things. At the present time, nearly an equal number of Americans support same sex marriage as oppose it. The increase in support has dramatically increased in recent years
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The will of the people used to endorse slavery, prohibition, laws against interracial marriage, and other things. At the present time, nearly an equal number of Americans support same sex marriage as oppose it. The increase in support has dramatically increased in recent years
That would be an inconvenient truth that does not fit in with Larry's hatred of gays. He seems to see nothing wring with denying equal rights so long as it agrees with his POV.
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:15 AM
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Yeah, you sure wouldn't want the will of the people to prevail. All good liberals know that the US Govt. knows what's best for the citizenry, not the citizenry itself.
In some areas, didn't the will of the people include lynch mobs, witch burnings, etc, etc? Wanna go for that? Or, I know it is a crazy idea, go with what the constitution says. Radical for sure but how about that?
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I believe a 3 judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has already heard the Constitutional arguments. They had applied to the CA Supreme Court for their interpretation on the party standing, so the Appeals Court decision could come rather quickly.
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