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Billybob · #**121** 08-05-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tonkovich

yes, the predicted derogatory comments.

it's like pushing a button.

Derogatory! How so!

tonkovich · #**122** 08-05-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Billybob

Derogatory! How so!

you tried to imply that i am a pedophile. and then told me to quit talking to myself, which suggests some sort of madness/hallucinatory activity on my part. again, i sort of expected as much. thx. (you are amusing.

please don't stop now)

cmbdiesel · #**123** 08-05-2010, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Billybob

I dispute the premise! Homosexuals are not being denied a” right” to marry; they simply do not qualify for the advantages society affords unions of male female co-habative potential procreators.

In line with your championed theory of “compelling state interest” the state can seek to advance and advantage an institution which has overwhelming demonstrated to produce the majority of successful progeny.

You just made the point that has been repeated to you in myriad ways.

Why would the state desire successful progeny? More mouths to feed, more crowding, more everything the state has to provide. Seems backwards to me, the state has compelling interest in favoring non-reproductive couples.

Scruffyguy1981 · #**124** 08-05-2010, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tonkovich

yes, the predicted derogatory comments.

it's like pushing a button.

cmbdiesel · #**125** 08-05-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Billybob

When debating with someone I often go to their own favorite sources for support, you often cite Wikipedia so you shouldn't have any objection now.

"Support for same-sex marriage is often based upon what is regarded as a universal human rights issue, mental and physical health concerns, equality before the law,[7] and the goal of normalizing LGBT relationships. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage

My own conclusions are based on my experiences, having spent much of the last 20 years living around, working out of, having my children under the provisions of Massachusetts School Choice law educated in the schools (I drove them 40 miles round trip 180 days a year to attend school), of arguably per capita the "Queerest" community in the world Provincetown MA. I have gay relatives, gay employees, I regularly deal with gay civic leaders, politicians and bureaucrats, gay business owners, gay customers, and gay citizens and visitors. I’m personally acquainted with probably 2-300 gay people there and have on thousands of occasions engaged in friendly, frank and respectful discussions with them on straight and gay “issues” both micro and macro.

I have gay relatives who have co-habitated for now almost 50 years who do not support “gay marriage” and at the other end of the spectrum I spent a good portion of a couple years in ideological warfare thwarting access to children and the inculcation of the gay agenda into the school curriculum by a noted “Queer Rights Activist, his words” recently convicted and sentenced to federal prison pedophile, named of John Perry Ryan.

Now we're getting somewhere, the basis of your prejudice. You don't like gays, and you live in Provincetown. That can't be ideal for you. Go west young man, but be sure to stop before you get to Cali.....

cmbdiesel · #**126** 08-05-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Billybob

Now you two make a lovely couple, the only question is, who's pitching and who's catching.

Between you and Skid Row???

Billybob · #**127** 08-05-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tonkovich

you tried to imply that i am a pedophile. and then told me to quit talking to myself, which suggests some sort of madness/hallucinatory activity on my part. again, i sort of expected as much. thx. (you are amusing.

please don't stop now)

No implication what so ever, simply attempting to ascertain the basis of your rhetorical commentary regarding pedophiles, you offered no qualifiers, no I heard, I read, I think, IMO etc.

On the second point you stated it was rhetorical, you ask rhetoricly why someone, you didn't state other than yourself, cares or makes it their business, isn't the obverse true, why has tonkaxxxch commented, why has tonkaxxxch has decided to care, why has tonkaxxxch has decided to make it his business. Isn't it fair to assume you could intrispectively ask this same question of yourself, and that couldn't be done except by talking to yourself.

Billybob · #**128** 08-05-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

Now we're getting somewhere, the basis of your prejudice. You don't like gays, and you live in Provincetown. That can't be ideal for you. Go west young man, but be sure to stop before you get to Cali.....

Correct, I don't like gays, I have no dislike for gays either! I'm ambivalent. My judgement of a person is not based on their individual sexual predilictions.

I haven't been domiciled in PTown, but a significant portion of my business was conducted within the towns waters and over the years I kept numerous boats used in my business based at the towns commercial pier as well as landing the aquacultured seafood products at the pier. My domestic partner of 16 years worked in the management of a town owned business for that time. As a result I was actively engaged with the towns management of aquaculture enterprises and pier management, and quite familiar with other town goings on.

#**129** 08-05-2010, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

Now we're getting somewhere, the basis of your prejudice. You don't like gays, and you live in Provincetown. That can't be ideal for you. Go west young man, but be sure to stop before you get to Cali.....

This is fun, I never knew that peggysue lived in p-town. I guess that explains some of the "overcompensation" whenever this subject comes up.

AdvisorGuy · #**130** 08-05-2010, 09:36 PM

Amazing... The same bunch of F***wits that want "BIG GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY LIFE!!!" are the same ones that want morality - THEIR MORALITY - legislated. Morality is for who to decide ? The ones that preach hate & fear in the name of god ? Those that fear things that are not like them and hide their bigotry behind that "you will think what I tell you to think" manual called the bible.

Billybob · #**131** 08-05-2010, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

You just made the point that has been repeated to you in myriad ways.

Why would the state desire successful progeny? More mouths to feed, more crowding, more everything the state has to provide. Seems backwards to me, the state has compelling interest in favoring non-reproductive couples.

I specified successful progeny not liberals, successful progeny don't need the state to feed them, house them, or provide them anything. It is the unsuccessful progeny who are ideologically liberal always sucking off the teat of the nanny state, always demanding someone else do for them that which they are incapable of doing for themselves, always seeing every difference in outcome as the result of manifest unfairness.

My own personal political platform would advocate the sterilization of liberals to prevent further manifestation of that particular mental disorder.

INAPPROPRIATE
B.C.

Scruffyguy1981 · #**132** 08-05-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Billybob

My own personal political platform would advocate the sterilization of liberals to prevent further manifestaion of that particular mental disorder.

And yet the "conservatives" are the ones whining about communism.....

I think the chance to be Hitler passed a few decades ago...

Billybob · #**133** 08-05-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Scruffyguy1981

And yet the "conservatives" are the ones whining about communism.....

I think the chance to be Hitler passed a few decades ago...

Lonesome?

Scruffyguy1981 · #**134** 08-05-2010, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Billybob

Lonesome?

Why, you wanna keep me company?

Prop 8 is of interest to me as are the "special" views of those in this country. I think that a truly "lonesome" person would feel the need to exterminate those who do not think as they think in order to make themselves feel better.

Billybob · #**135** 08-05-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Scruffyguy1981

Why, you wanna keep me company?

Prop 8 is of interest to me as are the "special" views of those in this country. I think that a truly "lonesome" person would feel the need to exterminate those who do not think as they think in order to make themselves feel better.

What's in it for me?