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64 bit computer, 32 bit browser
I can only assume there are advantages with my really happenin' new Gateway with its 64 bit processor. I'm hoping I find out what they are someday. I keep getting popups from some robot in the works that wants me to add this or that Flash Player which, of course I can't because they don't have one that supports or is supported by, not sure which, a 64 bit system. I've come to like Explorer better than the other browsers, in spite of some initial prejudice against big, bad Microsoft. But I need to use Firefox whenever I want to watch video and most audio.
Maybe I'd be happier with another 32 bit browser, not sure, but I'm not crazy about Firefox. For some reason, I can't get the 'organize bookmarks' function to work. So my bookmarks are all just in a lonnnng column. Also I have to change the screen magnification every new page. I entered "resize default" into the help box and got no help. The button that changes screen magnification is called "resize." Nobody thought to put in the simple function of having a default setting? What do these people do for a living?
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I had the same problem with the 64bit windows browser. The Adobe flash player would never work on 64 while trying to watch a video. I use the 32 bit with the latest flash player. There was suppose to be a fix for the problem. I don't much about computers so read this at your risk.
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The only real difference is memory allocation. A 64 bit written program can address larger blocks of memory. At least that is how its suppose to work.
So I can not for the life of me understand why Windows and Windows software is so screwed up with it comes to 32/64 bit. Its not like 64-bit CPUs are new. Even Apple abandoned them years ago.
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Beats the hell out of me. I was under the impression that 64 bit is the coming thing. You would think someone would have found a reason to make a version of the flash player for 64 bit.
A lady I work for received a new Dell notebook from her sister and it has both 64 and 32 Windows explorer working on it. I tried to look for that and all that I could find said that wasn't possible. I don't get it.
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64 bit CPU's can handle larger "chunks" of data at once, and more of them, making them even faster when running programs written in 64-bit and designed to take advantage of it. Most average users never remotely need or use these abilities for the most part. Video editing home movies is probably the closed most get. My brother does advanced video animation on his PC, and it can easily suck up a 6-core CPU and 16GB of ram.
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Processors do actually store information. A lot of it. Not all, of course, but everything that you're currently working on. Cache in the CPU compares to memory approximately as memory compares to a disk drive.
64-bit applications can indeed access more RAM. However, a 64-bit build of an application will take more memory than its 32-bit equivalent due to the fact that all pointers are now twice as large. And it will probably be slower. It takes twice as long to load an array of 64-bit pointers. The memory problem for 32-bit Windows applications comes at 2G. You can't access more than 2G in user space for a single program (without jumping through hoops). So if your browser is regularly hitting 2G working set size, well, you need 64-bit. More likely you need to restart it now and again. I've seen 64-bit OS's installed on machines with only 2G of RAM. That's a total waste. What little memory you have is being used to store 64-bit pointers that you don't need. That said, I run 64-bit Firefox on Linux. It runs great. Flash works great too, but I did have to manually install that. Right now, it's WSS looks to be about 153M. |
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Try here. Info may be dated a bit, but it's got info on the file locations and some difference between the 64-bit and 32-bit versions of IE8 http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/babaa5f8-ff06-4ea2-aef6-a9416d65f981 or here: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/3c12694b-0e3d-417e-bf3f-6ba53b9a8253 |
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I have worked on a couple of different windows 7 64-bit computers. Both of them had both versions of Internet Explorer installed, 32 and 64 bit. I don't recall how I accessed them but they both worked. No recall on which was the "default" one. Look on yours and see if you can find the 32 bit. If so give that a try.
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Mine came with the 64 bit IE8 installed, when I ran into issue's similiar to yours I uninstalled and reinstalled the 32 bit.
Haven't noticed any issue's except I can now run flash etc. Core duo, 6 gig, hp pavilion. Other than the glossy finish a pretty nice laptop.
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I thought the Core Duo was a 32 bit and the Core 2 Duo was 64.
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Have never had an issue with 64 bit Windows 7.. strange that you are having software troubles. 32 bit software works fine on 64 bit OS. The only problem you will run into with Win7 x64 is trying to install "unsigned" drivers (3rd party most of the time) which you really won't run into if you are a casual user.
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Runs nice have way more than even I need. Have Outlook, IE8 with 6 tabs, Sql Query Analyzer, trrading platform, word, and virtual box with 2 xp machines running now and not even working it.
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KLK, MCSE 1990 500SL I was always taught to respect my elders. I don't have to respect too many people anymore. |
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OK just found it.
Core 2 Duo, p7450 2.13GHz Other than no built in Bluetooth(added via USB bud) and shared video (with 6 gig not a big issue) I am really pleased with this laptop. 4 USBs one shared with eSATA, a really noce feature for backups.
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KLK, MCSE 1990 500SL I was always taught to respect my elders. I don't have to respect too many people anymore. |
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There really isn't a need to run a 64 bit browser yet. The speed difference is nill.
And OS X hasn't been truly 64bit until recently. There were multiple parts of the unix architecture that were 32bit up to 10.5 mostly for legacy stuff . 10.6 finally took the step upward and got rid of the legacy powerPC stuff.
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