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Rise up, and join the revolution. It begins today at noon.
Check out your local statehouse today around noon.
Rally to save the American dream.
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How 'bout live the American dream. Go to work dammit!
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It's a philosophical issue, dammit! Work smart, not Hard!
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Unless you are a state employee, why in the world would you go down and support those overpaid morons that are living the dream. Twenty years on the job for some of them, (it does vary), then they can get better then 90% of their wage at a set retirement age, but immediately they can barge in and get another job, even become an outside contractor for the job they left. Such a deal!! And you are stupid enough to help them!
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Junqueyardjim Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important. C.S. Lewis 1983 Mercedes W123 240D 4 Speed 285,000 on the road with a 617 turbo, beautiful butter yellow, license plate # 83 240D INDIANA 2003 Jaguar Type X, AWD. beautiful, good mileage, Mom's car, but I won't let her drive it! |
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Sure, they might get pension and I do not. I'll take comfort in the fact that today, my paycheck is more than double what a tenured teacher gets. I can save for my own retirement. When you're working for the government, it means that your job and job conditions may be affected by the mere whims of any future incoming administration. Thus, unless you're actually stupid, you take steps to prevent it. |
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Here in IL that number is just under 6 figures, they get full pension at 30 years and can still work (just not as a teacher in IL). There are over 3k teachers collecting 6+ figure pensions from IL today, that number will double within 5 years and is expected to triple in 10. Over a 3rd of them are under 60. AND they get COLA and full medical. Principals (non union, but) and School District leader get the same concept (with higher $s), they retire at 55 and go to another state run a school or district and collect their pension and salary. Recent study WSJ, shows that public employees are getting twice the benifets, pension and medical, that the private sector provides. AND the salaries were not terribly out of line, if you are educated there was NO real difference in pay. Let's look at some other benefits public employees get. 11 days off / year, most of us get 6 or 7. Vacations are similiar, public vs private, but public can accumulate unused vacation and sick days unlimited (who in private gets 'sick' days). Private employees are use it or lose it, and the IRS dings you bad if you accumulate over 120 days. Public employees have no limit. Now the line worker in the public system, let's not even get into how hard they work. And between Union and Public employment, get fired yea right!
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KLK, MCSE 1990 500SL I was always taught to respect my elders. I don't have to respect too many people anymore. |
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That is the EXACT kind of BS the supevisors in San Francisco City Government tell you, and yet they THEMSELVES have NEVER done the job that they are highly paid to supervise.
God, what an awful memory you brought back. I feel like I just took a BATH in a SEWER. THANKS A LOT FOR THAT.
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Yes, Yes,
Never mind the man behind the curtain. GET BACK TO WORK !! And we need you to stay late, without pay. Get back in that coal mine or you will be shot ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre
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When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. Jimi Hendrix |
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O by the way,
If you need work, The Kotch brothers are hiring for their new power plant in Wisconsin. Seams there is more to the story than just busting the teachers union. Just wait till you read the bill, that was passed at 1 in the morning.
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It's Saturday. I'm going to wait until Monday to go to work.
(Not to say that I won't get some work done here in the meanwhile. Sometimes, I can't help myself.) |
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First they came for the .....
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Is FOX covering this??
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Anybody else remember when people used to protest FOR higher wages, healthcare, pensions? As the UNIONS have disappeared along with those benefits NOW the people protest AGAINST ANYONE having those benefits.
They seem to be saying "I settled for less so YOU have to too" Corporate America has to be laughing at the general public protesting to pull everybody DOWN to their level. Remember what Rush says; If your making $25hr plus benefits your ruining America and are not patriotic. However if your making $8hr with NO benefits your a TRUE PATRIOT. |
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But did he really say that? I find that hard to believe, even for him. |
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That's guaranteed, he never said that! Anyone who thinks Rush is a "rambling fool" has never listened to him. Look, I have no argument with the Union so long as it stays in the area of profit making corporations. But when the State Government Employees can strike for wages and benefits, there is no end to what they will try to get. It has go to end sooner or later, might as well be now. Federal Employee's union can't make demands for wages or benefits, even so I think most of them are over paid also. I just hope the Wisconsin Governor hands out so many pink slips that the employees go nuts. They went nuts in 1959 when this Union BS was pushed through. I remember it well, as we were living and working in Milwaukee at the time.
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Junqueyardjim Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important. C.S. Lewis 1983 Mercedes W123 240D 4 Speed 285,000 on the road with a 617 turbo, beautiful butter yellow, license plate # 83 240D INDIANA 2003 Jaguar Type X, AWD. beautiful, good mileage, Mom's car, but I won't let her drive it! |
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