Regulate air shows! They are dangerous!

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You could just ban air crashes. Its the stop at the end that is the problem !!

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I remember going to the races out side of Phoenix when I lived out there. Never understood why people would stand so close to the race path. The planes are doing in excess of 500mph in the unlimited classes barely 100 feet off the deck. If a plane were too loose control on the front side as happened here, it's all over. I always stood farther back and toward the end of the straight. I think having the spectator area farther away from the race circuit would be a safer idea.

As for grounding the older planes. I do not think it has anything to do with the age of the planes. These things are maintained as well as any new aircraft and it does not look like a structural failure (no pieces looked like they were missing). I just think they went out side the performance envelope. The pilots are pushing these planes and them selves to the very limit and sometimes stuff breaks or things just for wrong.

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This is correct. Aircraft receive an Airworthiness Certificate after post production testing. They go through annual inspections which involve disassembly and thorough inspection and whatever maintenance necessary. The aircraft MUST pass inspection and be have airworthiness directives up to date to maintain their legal as well practical airworthiness. All this must be done to maintain the validity of the Airworthiness Certificate. There are many aspects of the ongoing airworthiness of a plane and the necessary logs that are too lengthy to explain here. They are better maintained than any car you ever saw.

Any pilot with common sense ENSURES that inspections and maintenance are kept up with. The thought of something going wrong with the aircraft in flight is sobering to any pilot. It takes me 15 minutes to do a preflight inspection before I go up for any amount of time. It's MY butt in that plane, and I've kind of gotten attached to living.

In the case of the Mustang, a typical uninformed news reporter said that the trim tab broke. The trim tab has minimal effect on aircraft control and can be overridden. It might be that the elevator control broke. I fully expect the NTSB and FAA to get to the bottom of it.

Outlawing a plane because it is old would be as big brother as outlawing air races because someone might get hurt. This is the USA.

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It sounds like they need to sit further away from the planes.

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There you go with common sense again Tom! Sounds like the thing to do alright.

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Thank you for your illuminating statement from which I am certain the families and relatives and friends of the dead and the surviving vics will derive great comfort.

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I was speaking from a preservation point of view and not from a safety concern. Almost all of the people who fought WWII are already gone. It is a shame to destroy the old aircraft by racing them. They are a part of history and a non-renewable resource.

On the other hand, replicas would probably be built in china and that wouldn't make me happy.

Banning old people is nature's domain, can't stop it if you try.

Doubt it -- air-racing aircraft are purpose build machines (think F1 cars), not something that you can mass-produce. Even that P-51 likely had very little in common with an original WW II fighter.