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Old 11-02-2011, 09:03 PM
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First, I don't think the BMI index is accurate for all people.
It's not. I'll give you an example. In 1970, when Arnold Schwarzenegger starred in Hercules in New York, he weighed about 250 lbs. At 6' 2", that give him a BMI of 32 or OBESE. Did he look obese to you in that film?

A shot-putter acquaintance of mine in college summed it up nicely, if not completely accurately: "BMI is only accurate for people who've never lifted a weight in their lives."

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Part of the problem is that a lot of foods are nutrient deficient. So, your body is hungry till you eat enough to supply the viatmins, minerals etc. you need. I do take some vitamin suppliments etc. That gets tricky, as to the types, bioavailabilty etc.
True. The diet I'm on now is not so great from a micronutrient perspective. However, the original intent was to be on it for seven days, and it takes a lot longer than that for diseases of nutritional deficiency to set in.

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I am more in the Blood type diet camp. There are some other influences, like Dr. Mark Hymen and some others. Keeping toxins out, and getting rid of them ones that get in. Its a big challange in todays enviroment.
Tom
I looked those up. The founder of the blood type diet thinks I should eat tofu and do yoga. (long pause in typing while I finish laughing) I think Hymen is mixing some good general advice with hocus pocus.
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Old 11-02-2011, 09:27 PM
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They can't seem to figure out my BMI, because my penis accounts for 25% of my body weight.
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Old 11-02-2011, 11:37 PM
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Reading the specs on some of you folks pre-post-weightloss, I'm just one, sorry, bago'$h!+!!!

But...things are looking up...

Around the 29th of August, I decided to "cold-turkey" the "DEW" and start myself on a self-imposed weight-loss program.

Why?

At 5' 5" (± 0.5") and 297lbs. (digital scale, unfortunately...accurate), life was beginning to suck...and my knees weren't enjoying the daily pounding (pun...sorry!) of moving forward/backward/couch-ward on a day-to-day basis. And cutting out the item of my self-inflicted-style-of-demise was the logical first place to start...

And what was that method?

I quit drinking mass-quantities of alcohol (I MIGHT HAVE, maybe, one-two beers every other month or so...) back around the time of the '82 World Series, so my alternative "drink of choice" became the "DEW" of television/radio fame.

And it's proven to be JUST TOO MUCH SUGAR/HIGH-FRUCTOSE SYRUP for anyone to consume on anything that would resemble a normal day...let alone on a regular basis...

I can't even begin to tell you how much/day I was consuming...but water was a DISTANCE 2nd to it.

Now, since that wonderful day back in August, I've gone from 297#s, down to 244#s and it's all due to just switching from the "sirens' song of drink" to the regular tap-water I'm drinking in place of the sugar'd crap.

I've had some lemonade/Gatorade-style drinks during the earlier stage of time (used as a "weaning-agent") during the initial days of dumping the "DEW" from the daily intake. (Ashamedly, the "DEW" was, sometimes, the ONLY intake.)

A side-bar to the "de-DEWing?"

I've also lost the taste/craving for anything MickeyDs'-related (regardless whether it's the "King"/"Star"/"KFC" or whatever...).

When will I, eventually, hit the "Michaelangeloic-David-type" state?

Never...

But, staying away from the "DEW" (and its devil-spawned brethren) is a decent start...

(Did I just hear the sound of PEPSICO/YUM-branded stock tanking?)

(Only my digital scale will know for sure!)
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Old 11-03-2011, 12:21 AM
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Reading the specs on some of you folks pre-post-weightloss, I'm just one, sorry, bago'$h!+!!!

But...things are looking up...

Around the 29th of August, I decided to "cold-turkey" the "DEW" and start myself on a self-imposed weight-loss program.

Why?

At 5' 5" (± 0.5") and 297lbs. (digital scale, unfortunately...accurate), life was beginning to suck...and my knees weren't enjoying the daily pounding (pun...sorry!) of moving forward/backward/couch-ward on a day-to-day basis. And cutting out the item of my self-inflicted-style-of-demise was the logical first place to start...

And what was that method?

I quit drinking mass-quantities of alcohol (I MIGHT HAVE, maybe, one-two beers every other month or so...) back around the time of the '82 World Series, so my alternative "drink of choice" became the "DEW" of television/radio fame.

And it's proven to be JUST TOO MUCH SUGAR/HIGH-FRUCTOSE SYRUP for anyone to consume on anything that would resemble a normal day...let alone on a regular basis...

I can't even begin to tell you how much/day I was consuming...but water was a DISTANCE 2nd to it.

Now, since that wonderful day back in August, I've gone from 297#s, down to 244#s and it's all due to just switching from the "sirens' song of drink" to the regular tap-water I'm drinking in place of the sugar'd crap.

I've had some lemonade/Gatorade-style drinks during the earlier stage of time (used as a "weaning-agent") during the initial days of dumping the "DEW" from the daily intake. (Ashamedly, the "DEW" was, sometimes, the ONLY intake.)

A side-bar to the "de-DEWing?"

I've also lost the taste/craving for anything MickeyDs'-related (regardless whether it's the "King"/"Star"/"KFC" or whatever...).

When will I, eventually, hit the "Michaelangeloic-David-type" state?

Never...

But, staying away from the "DEW" (and its devil-spawned brethren) is a decent start...

(Did I just hear the sound of PEPSICO/YUM-branded stock tanking?)

(Only my digital scale will know for sure!)
.

Is that why you mellowed out?
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Old 11-03-2011, 01:06 AM
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Is that why you mellowed out?
Nope. BC gave me a "licking" and eventually, allowed me to continue "ticking."

I'm feeling much better...now...
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Old 11-03-2011, 11:48 AM
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It's not. I'll give you an example. In 1970, when Arnold Schwarzenegger starred in Hercules in New York, he weighed about 250 lbs. At 6' 2", that give him a BMI of 32 or OBESE. Did he look obese to you in that film?

A shot-putter acquaintance of mine in college summed it up nicely, if not completely accurately: "BMI is only accurate for people who've never lifted a weight in their lives."



True. The diet I'm on now is not so great from a micronutrient perspective. However, the original intent was to be on it for seven days, and it takes a lot longer than that for diseases of nutritional deficiency to set in.



I looked those up. The founder of the blood type diet thinks I should eat tofu and do yoga. (long pause in typing while I finish laughing) I think Hymen is mixing some good general advice with hocus pocus.
Yeah, steriods tend to skew things.
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:40 PM
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Yeah, steriods tend to skew things.
Tom
not to mention being in the gym for 8 hours a day. Trust me those 'roid ragers still work hard.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:03 PM
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not to mention being in the gym for 8 hours a day. Trust me those 'roid ragers still work hard.
My understanding is that steroids, or certain types, not actually add muscle themselves. They allow the person to train longer, or hard or recover faster.
From memory Arnold did admit to using some steroids. It wasn't at the level that are taken today. I'll admit that the BMI is more of a rule of thumb or such. As with anything, someone can be found to defy common norms. The smoking industry usually trots out some 90 year old wheazzer or such.
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