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Old 11-02-2011, 05:44 PM
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Honda doesn't have a single GDI engine thus far. They've really let themselves fall behind.
Have to agree...they've practically handed the compact market to Hyundai. The CR-Z is one of their more visible recent mistakes.
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Old 11-02-2011, 05:49 PM
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You have the Jeep for winter utility and hauling, so if I were in your place I'd want something fun. First choice would be a Honda S2000, second choice Mazda MX5, third Acura RSX type S. RSX will give you cargo space, others not so much.
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:04 PM
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Why not? The car is both technically advanced compared to the lower cost japanese offerings. Plus it is well established they have quietly been on a course of seriously improving their quality year over year.

I do not think they yet have the equivelant of japanese quality but they seem to be headed that way. Once decent resale prices are established for the kia and hyundia brands I think they will have really arrived.

The current elantra is a lot of car for the dollar especially if you can pick it up on one of their sales promotions. Fairly roomy with decent roadability. With a large trunk and catchy styling that may or may not become dated.

Epa of 58 miles per highway gallon on our imperial gallon. This should put the epa highway in the states with your smaller gallon in the area of 50 plus miles per gallon. Generally of course you never get the epa rated milage. Yet even 45 miles per gallon in a car that size is going to interest people. Huyundia even have a car called the optimist or something simular on their lots to compete with the top end cars. They are targetting the lexus,infinity,mercedes, bmw market and many others this year I suspect at far less dollars. I saw one the other day and it was impressive. I also had a glimpse at their hybrid elantra.

Not a slouch performance wise either. Economy with power available is a good combination in the elantra. Actually hard to get in the low price fields and I think they have six speed automatic transmissions compared to the four speed automatics still vended in the lower end lines like civics, corolas.

The elantra is currently selling so well the company cannot currently supply enough cars to dealers in Canada.Not that many years ago you could not give them away.

They are still coming up quality wise faster than anyone would have thought possible in my opinion. Their newest top end car has an eight speed automatic by the way.

If there is no hyundia dealer in your area and you are fairly young. Picking up or starting a dealership right away might be a gold mine soon.

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Old 11-02-2011, 06:52 PM
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Epa of 58 miles per highway gallon on our imperial gallon. This should put the epa highway in the states with your smaller gallon in the area of 50 plus miles per gallon. Generally of course you never get the epa rated milage. Yet even 45 miles per gallon in a car that size is going to interest people.
Not true depends how you drive. I regularly exceed EPA mileage estimates on every car I drive. In fact, I've been called out to be a "liar" on this forum when I state my mileage in my MBs. 40mpg should be attainable fairly easily on a lot of their models with conscious driving.

FWIW I test drove a Genesis coupe this summer and did not like it at all. I was quite disappointed since I had high hopes for the car.
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Old 11-02-2011, 07:04 PM
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Not true depends how you drive. I regularly exceed EPA mileage estimates on every car I drive. In fact, I've been called out to be a "liar" on this forum when I state my mileage in my MBs. 40mpg should be attainable fairly easily on a lot of their models with conscious driving.

FWIW I test drove a Genesis coupe this summer and did not like it at all. I was quite disappointed since I had high hopes for the car.
We all develop different driving styles. I agee that going easy is going to get greater fuel milage and be less wearing on mechanical systems. I never would expect to hit epa ratings in my stlye of driving. Getting up to speed too fast and depending on your brakes to slow you at the last possible moment are the two largest wasters of fuel. Plus excess idiling and high speed.

Without actually knowing I assume the genesis coupe is a hyundia varient. If so I have not seen one yet.

I was never able to comprehend why the epa figures on diesels where less than the average driver got for a period of time.
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Old 11-02-2011, 05:38 PM
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what about a plain ole civic?
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I agree about the Mazda 3, I had one for a week as a rental and was impressed with the build quality, handling and ergonomics. The only thing I was a little disappointed by was the fuel economy, not the best in this segment but a great car otherwise.

My gf has a '05 focus hatch, it is a fun car to drive but I don't think the interior quality is nearly as good as the Mazda and honesty for some reason the gas mileage on her car is also pretty poor.
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:08 PM
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How about a Pontiac Vibe if you want a domestic marque?

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