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Old 11-15-2011, 05:26 AM
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Technically, she didn't work for them. A biography of Dutchcot posted on the website of the law firm Goodall & Yurchak lists her as a volunteer for Second Mile. It is not clear whether Dutchcot currently has any affiliation with the organization.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but *technically* I didn't say she worked "for" them, but "with" them, which is exactly what I meant and certainly includes the details you added.

My point was that even to the lay person, that smacks of impropriety.

And the old judicial canon, which has been formally codified into the ethical rules in each state, provides that a judge should avoid "even the appearance of impropriety."

Certainly minds can differ, but it's hard to imagine how to reconcile that, unless, of course, the firm bio is misleading and she never personally worked with the foundation, just other members of the firm. Still not ideal -- you want a judge to be squeaky clean and above reproach -- but at least it's outside the umbrella.

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Old 11-15-2011, 06:17 AM
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This last weekend when they pulled Mcqueary from coaching at the game made me think there is something more to hear about him......something negative.

There is also something about his testamony that does not sound exactly right to me.

I wonder if there is a "the rest of the story" there.
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Old 11-15-2011, 12:27 PM
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This last weekend when they pulled Mcqueary from coaching at the game made me think there is something more to hear about him......something negative.

There is also something about his testamony that does not sound exactly right to me.

I wonder if there is a "the rest of the story" there.
Only a couple things come to mind. Sandusky said "If you don't report it to more than Paterno, I'll make it worth your while." or McQueary said "What's it worth to me to keep this in-house?".

Still sounds to me kike McQueary didn't want to jeopardize his career and did his legal obligation. Report it to someone and let them sort it out.
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Old 11-16-2011, 04:59 PM
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Ya know, it's funny how time affects memories.

If McQueary lied about going to the police, then it's probably he lied about it being "stopped" as well. I particularly like his qualifier on the "stop" thing (quote excerpted below). This guy is a real piece of work.

Full article here: State College police: McQueary didn't report abuse - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com

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McQueary, now an assistant football coach, wrote in a Nov. 8 email to a friend that he stopped an alleged sexual assault by Sandusky on a 10-year-old boy in 2002 and discussed it with police afterward.
"I did stop it, not physically ... but made sure it was stopped when I left that locker room ... I did have discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police .... no one can imagine my thoughts or wants to be in my shoes for those 30-45 seconds ... trust me," he wrote.

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"Absolutely not," State College Police Chief Tom King told NBC News when asked if McQueary had ever come to them with allegations concerning Sandusky, a former defensive coordinator for the Penn State football team.
"We don't have any records of him coming to us," King said.
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:31 AM
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Ahhh...McQueary did talk to the police.


After they came to him. McQueary sure seems to be a turd.


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Investigators with the Pennsylvania attorney general's office — who were already convinced Sandusky was a serial molester — were alerted to an Internet forum posting that mentioned a Penn Statefootball coach had kept silent about abuse he had witnessed years earlier, sources told the newspaper.

The posting, on a forum where people chatted about Penn State athletics, allowed them to draw up a list of coaches likely to have seen something, which in turn led them to Penn State's wide receivers coach Mike McQueary.

Investigators set up a meeting in a parking lot a little over a year ago, the newspaper reported, at which McQueary unburdened himself about having witnessed a 10-year-old boy being raped by Sandusky in 2002.

Full article includes that excerpt: Internet posting pointed to Sandusky - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com
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The whole issue is one loved by the mainstream media. They love it so much they came up with another one in basketball.

They love it because it gives them something to divert the attention from B.O.'s failings. This is the kind of free campaign assistance that will give B.O. another term.
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:33 AM
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The whole issue is one loved by the mainstream media. They love it so much they came up with another one in basketball.

They love it because it gives them something to divert the attention from B.O.'s failings. This is the kind of free campaign assistance that will give B.O. another term.
No, it is just the flavor of the week to remain at the top of all news stories until something more sordid comes along and they think it will sell for them.
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The whole issue is one loved by the mainstream media. They love it so much they came up with another one in basketball.

They love it because it gives them something to divert the attention from B.O.'s failings. This is the kind of free campaign assistance that will give B.O. another term.
This one is Worthy of a foil hat! You have no clue how media works. They cover these stories because it sells, generates viewership and therefore money. It has absolutely nothing to do with Obama unless you are in larryworld, where everything is orchestrated by evil liberals.
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:20 AM
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This one is Worthy of a foil hat! You have no clue how media works. They cover these stories because it sells, generates viewership and therefore money. It has absolutely nothing to do with Obama unless you are in larryworld, where everything is orchestrated by evil liberals.
TRUE, but given that most people in the media vote democrat, its OK that it diverts attention from the President. That is not what DRIVES it, but its a happy by-product.
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TRUE, but given that most people in the media vote democrat, its OK that it diverts attention from the President. That is not what DRIVES it, but its a happy by-product.
So I guess those 8 years of stories while gwb was in the office was just a fluke?
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The whole issue is one loved by the mainstream media. They love it so much they came up with another one in basketball.

They love it because it gives them something to divert the attention from B.O.'s failings. This is the kind of free campaign assistance that will give B.O. another term.
are you smoking crack?

the "media" "creates" stories about sexual abuse of minors, to further the re=election campaign of barack obama? really? care to give us some proof of this diabolical plot to keep that kenyan muslim in power? (larry: barack obama is a tool of wall st. and goldman sachs. just look at the people around him. larry summers, tim geithner?)
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:10 AM
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My wife is a 16 yr educator...Chain of command is to report an incident to your superior. It stops there for her as an employee. If she asks about the situation later the response she gets is " we cant discuss details with you" even tho she reports the incident. If she contacts police and escalates the situation she potentially loses her job and becomes fully involved for "our" children to see.

My wife is also a high school cheerleading coach and judge that has been sued by parents about 10 yrs ago by parents of 3 girls that did not make the team. Because...They did not make the team!

She and I both agree neither one of us could have walked away from a visual incident but as far as JoPa goes he followed chain of command and his employers policy....

hmmmm
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...She and I both agree neither one of us could have walked away from a visual incident but as far as JoPa goes he followed chain of command and his employers policy....
JoPa ruled Penn State. If he wanted action to be taken against Sandusky, it would have happened. Even if we give him the maximum benefit of the doubt and assume that he did all he could do with respect to the shower incident that McQueary told him about, JoPa can't explain why Sandusky was permitted to continue to associate himself with Penn State in connection with his boys' camps.
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So Sandusky did the interview and denied everything other than "horsing around" and showering with boys. Uh, huh.

And now, two new cases are being reported...so there seem to be some victims that are still under 18.

And he's free on an unsecured 100K bond granted by a judge who used to work with the foundation he established and from which he selected some of his victims.

Are we sure this isn't Chicago?



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Old 11-22-2011, 10:52 PM
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And he's free on an unsecured 100K bond granted by a judge who used to work with the foundation he established and from which he selected some of his victims.
I thought she was a volunteer merely? But if she used to work for them, it is in the past. What is the significance?

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