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Can't Know · #1 11-09-2011, 11:56 PM

Sad.

Whatever the facts prove out, this is an ugly black mark on the end of a storied career.

After reporting it and testifying before a grand jury, what more did they expect of him?

kerry · #2 11-10-2011, 12:15 AM

Call the cops?

SwampYankee · #3 11-10-2011, 08:10 AM

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Call the cops?

Yup. Thanks to Paterno's inaction, dating back to 1998 at the very least, more boys were raped and exploited. And apparently right on the Penn State campus. The fact that the university banned Sandusky from bringing boys onto the campus speaks volumes as does Sandusky's retirement in 1999, after being groomed to take over the program, while still in his 50's.

I'm afraid there's more to this sad story. I don't see how anyone can defend him in this case. He enabled a pedophile.

Primary and secondary teachers, administrators and coaches are required by law to notify the police or child protective services if they think abuse is taking place. There's no such requirement at the post-secondary level?

Air&Road · #4 11-10-2011, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Can't Know

Sad.

Whatever the facts prove out, this is an ugly black mark on the end of a storied career.

After reporting it and testifying before a grand jury, what more did they expect of him?

Are the news reports wrong? I have been under the opinion that he covered it up. Please enlighten me.

MS Fowler · #5 11-10-2011, 10:13 AM

Anyone who works with children in any capacity in my church is required to take a training course that we put together to comply with state ( MD) regulations. While taking that course, I was surprised that anyone with ANY suspicion of child abuse has no discretion; they MUST report it to the police. Its not enough to report it to superiors in the organization. The report must be made to the police. My guess is that the law is the same in PA.

SwampYankee · #6 11-10-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

Anyone who works with children in any capacity in my church is required to take a training course that we put together to comply with state ( MD) regulations. While taking that course, I was surprised that anyone with ANY suspicion of child abuse has no discretion; they MUST report it to the police. Its not enough to report it to superiors in the organization. The report must be made to the police. My guess is that the law is the same in PA.

I can not fathom how that might not be the case. And I'm just guessing that it is since it's been mentioned a number of times that Paterno met his legal requirements (but obviously failed miserably on the moral or decency end).

Now it looks like the situation in Happy Valley might very well get a lot worse.

Jerry Sandusky Rumored to Have Been Pimping Out Young Boys to Rich Donors, Says Mark Madden

While I suppose it is still in rumor stage, keep in mind that Madden wrote an article back in April about the situation as it sits right now but got little to no coverage. 6 months later, that April article looks to be dead-on.

Air&Road · #7 11-10-2011, 10:50 AM

I was awaiting further clarification and an answer to my question to make sure that I do not opine while missing some of the facts.

If I understand correctly, Paterno KNEW about the activity and did not go past the President of the University.

IF this being my understanding of the issue, is correct, I believe that he should not only have lost his job, but also be prosecuted as an accessory. Had he done the right thing, at least some of these boys would have escaped this activity.

My opinions regarding gay activity are widely known by those frequenting this forum. Does anyone want to come and swack me down for wanting to protect these kids? This is a good example of some of the results of letting gay behavior be expanded in our society.

Kevlar on and ready.

The Clk Man · #8 11-10-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

I was awaiting further clarification and an answer to my question to make sure that I do not opine while missing some of the facts.

If I understand correctly, Paterno KNEW about the activity and did not go past the President of the University.

IF this being my understanding of the issue, is correct, I believe that he should not only have lost his job, but also be prosecuted as an accessory. Had he done the right thing, at least some of these boys would have escaped this activity.

My opinions regarding gay activity are widely known by those frequenting this forum. Does anyone want to come and swack me down for wanting to protect these kids? This is a good example of some of the results of letting gay behavior be expanded in our society.

Kevlar on and ready.

Agreed. What a sad way to end a career. He should have notified the police.

kerry · #9 11-10-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

My opinions regarding gay activity are widely known by those frequenting this forum. Does anyone want to come and swack me down for wanting to protect these kids? This is a good example of some of the results of letting gay behavior be expanded in our society.

X2 It's patently obvious that heterosexuals never rape so outlawing homosexuality is a simple solution to sexual coercion.

tbomachines · #10 11-10-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

I was awaiting further clarification and an answer to my question to make sure that I do not opine while missing some of the facts.

If I understand correctly, Paterno KNEW about the activity and did not go past the President of the University.

IF this being my understanding of the issue, is correct, I believe that he should not only have lost his job, but also be prosecuted as an accessory. Had he done the right thing, at least some of these boys would have escaped this activity.

My opinions regarding gay activity are widely known by those frequenting this forum. Does anyone want to come and swack me down for wanting to protect these kids? This is a good example of some of the results of letting gay behavior be expanded in our society.

Kevlar on and ready.

So in your book homosexuality and pedophilia are the same? Very scary

Air&Road · #11 11-10-2011, 11:24 AM

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So in your book homosexuality and pedophilia are the same? Very scary

Come on TBO! You are WAAAaaaay smarter than this. If gay behavior had not expanded so much in the last few decades, there would be fewer people practicing it. With fewer practicing it, there are fewer to molest these innocent young boys.

aklim · #12 11-10-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

Come on TBO! You are WAAAaaaay smarter than this. If gay behavior had not expanded so much in the last few decades, there would be fewer people practicing it. With fewer practicing it, there are fewer to molest these innocent young boys.

And if we stopped sex altogether, there would be fewer men preying on innocent young girls if we go along with that vein.

Or do you have an explanation for men who go for underage girls?

aklim · #13 11-10-2011, 12:08 PM

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Paterno had come under increasing criticism — including from within the community known as Happy Valley — for not doing more to stop the alleged abuse by Sandusky. Some of the assaults took place at the Penn State football complex, including a 2002 incident witnessed by then-graduate assistant and current assistant coach Mike McQueary.McQueary went to Paterno and reported seeing Sandusky assaulting a young boy in the Penn State showers. Paterno notified the athletic director, Tim Curley, and a vice president, Gary Schultz, who in turn notified Spanier.

OTOH, we never heard about our friend Mike M. Why is that? Why did Mike not go report it himself since he saw the incident and let the cards fall where they may?

tbomachines · #14 11-10-2011, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

And if we stopped sex altogether, there would be fewer men preying on innocent young girls if we go along with that vein.

Or do you have an explanation for men who go for underage girls?

Beat me to the punch! For that matter, what about men who abuse their own daughters? There are so many things wrong with equating homosexuality to pedophilia I thought Larry was joking for a minute.

FWIW I am not defending JoePa at all, I think he should have gone further with reporting as many others do. There is a small subset of PSU who are rioting at the moment, what idiots.

aklim · #15 11-10-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines

Beat me to the punch! For that matter, what about men who abuse their own daughters? There are so many things wrong with equating homosexuality to pedophilia I thought Larry was joking for a minute.

FWIW I am not defending JoePa at all, I think he should have gone further with reporting as many others do.

There is a small subset of PSU who are rioting at the moment, what idiots.

As I said, outlaw sex altogether and you will stop fathers from having sex with their daughters. Better yet, there will be no kids for them to have sex with.

Perhaps so but maybe that student assistant should have reported it since he was a witness to the crime, assuming it was a crime being committed.

I'm so happy that at PSU land, they have solved all the major problems and now can tackle such minor problems