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Old 11-21-2011, 08:32 PM
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No, don't kill it yet. I hear that Newt is going to give a speech today about his proposal to change Social Security. I guarantee the speech will be idiotic.
LOL...ok...pass.

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Old 11-21-2011, 10:55 PM
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WHO bails out the big corporations?...
Some boneheaded politicians using taxpayer's good name to secure debt because the government hasn't had sufficient revenues to cover debt consistently in 50 years or so.
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:01 AM
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Is the GOP still pushing privatizing social security? I thought with the collapse of the stock market due to the sub prime loan fiasco this lame idea had been put to bed....???
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:56 AM
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Is the GOP still pushing privatizing social security? I thought with the collapse of the stock market due to the sub prime loan fiasco this lame idea had been put to bed....???
They never WERE pushing for total SS privatization. It was only 10% of it. Don't feel bad though. The left wing media did a great job of obscuring the truth about the proposal.
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:52 AM
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.... The left wing media did a great job of obscuring the truth about the proposal.
I now see the light... all things wrong are the fault of the left wing media...thanks for clearing that up for me Larry...
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:57 AM
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Is the GOP still pushing privatizing social security? I thought with the collapse of the stock market due to the sub prime loan fiasco this lame idea had been put to bed....???
What they have been pushing for since 1935 is the elimination of Social Security. Partial privatization is how they hope to achieve it. To anyone unwilling to give the matter more than about 10 seconds of thought, partial privatization sounds fair. So far, thank goodness, the voters have seen through the GOP ruse. W got punished for trying the privatization angle at the beginning of his second term. He used up a good chunk of his political capital on that one. Let's hope the same thing happens here.
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:14 PM
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They never WERE pushing for total SS privatization. It was only 10% of it. Don't feel bad though. The left wing media did a great job of obscuring the truth about the proposal.
So how exactly were they going to choose which 10 percent they were going to apply that to ?
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Old 11-22-2011, 01:13 PM
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So if all our retirement funds could be put into the stock market the big firms could put all of that cash into high risk derivatives, take out insurance policies that pay the firms if the derivatives fail, and then sit back and watch the derivatives fail so they can collect the insurance?

Sounds like when the kids on South Park put their money in the bank. 'And.... It's gone!'
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:54 PM
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What they have been pushing for since 1935 is the elimination of Social Security.....
I wish that were true but I think Reagan dumped that plank from the Repo platform and nobody since has brought it back, the cowards.
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I wish that were true but I think Reagan dumped that plank from the Repo platform and nobody since has brought it back, the cowards.
Reagan knew a losing argument when he saw one.
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:06 PM
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Reagan was the master of saying something that sounded fine and doing something else. A quality exhibited by many in politics, and some with mastery to excess. Very few have the courage of any conviction and fewer still, willing to speak for them. Which is why I voted for Ron Paul in 2008. He speaks truth to power.

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